Airbus loses UPS

http://www.playfuls.com/news_09_3987...reighters.html

Fearing Airbus will not be able to deliver before the new revised deadline
in 2012, United Parcel Service Inc., the world's largest package shipper,
has announced it will scrap their $2.8 billion order for 10 SAS A380
freighters. As such, Airbus lost the last customer on the freighter version
of its superjumbo jet.

FedEx Corp. dropped its 10-aircraft order in November, and International
Lease Finance Corp., the world's largest plane lessor, switched its order
for five freighters to passenger versions of the A380 a month later.

"UPS had intended to complete an internal study of whether it could wait
until 2012 for the aircraft, but now understands Airbus is diverting
employees from the A380 freighter program to work on the passenger version
of the plane," the shipping company said.

"Based on our previous discussions, we had felt that 2012 was a reasonable
estimate of when Airbus could supply this plane," David Abney, UPS chief
operating officer and president of UPS Airline, said in a statement. "We no
longer are confident that Airbus can adhere to that schedule."

UPS is concerned that Airbus has shifted employees from the A380 freighter
program to work on the passenger version of the plane, which makes much more
money. Airbus said on Thursday development of the A380F freighter had been
"temporarily cut off... so that all capacities can be directed at the A380
passenger version".

"Airbus is disappointed that UPS intends to cancel the A380 freighter
order," said Justin Dubon, a spokesman for Airbus in Toulouse, France. "We
respect the airline's decision, and this is consistent with the agreement we
reached last week."

UPS ordered its first 10 A380 aircraft in January 2005 for use on U.S.-Asia
routes. The triple-decker freighter has 2.4 times the lift capacity of a
Boeing 747, a big advantage for long routes with limited number of flights.

FedEx, after canceling its A380 order with Airbus in November, announced it
would purchase 15 U.S.-made Boeing 777 freighters with an option to buy 15
more.

Richard Branson's Virgin Atlantic, which has six A380's on order, said it
expects to decide within a month whether it will acquire new Airbus or
Boeing planes to help it deal with the delay. Virgin Atlantic will receive,
hopefully, their planes in 2013 if additional delays are not announced.

Airbus sees the A380F, which has a range of 10,400 kilometers and is capable
of carrying 150 tons of freight, as a rival to Boeing's 777F.

I just wonder how much more the A380 cancellations are going to tear into
Airbus' bottom line. Maybe the 'worlds largest airliner' was not a good idea
or maybe the wrong climate. The employees and contractors and suppliers the
world over are going to be hit hard, again!

Jim Morris

I don't have an A380 photo on this computer to post. Here is one of PHL's
A330's

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380-Freighters.html

Fearing Airbus will not be able to deliver before the new revised deadline
in 2012, United Parcel Service Inc., the world's largest package shipper,
has announced it will scrap their $2.8 billion order for 10 SAS A380
freighters. As such, Airbus lost the last customer on the freighter
version
of its superjumbo jet.

if airbus was supported by the governments it would have died years ago.
its the chrystler of the air.

Ray O'Hara wrote:


"Jim Morris" wrote in message
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http://www.playfuls.com/news_09_3987...or-10-Airbus-A
380-Freighters.html

Fearing Airbus will not be able to deliver before the new revised
deadline in 2012, United Parcel Service Inc., the world's largest package
shipper, has announced it will scrap their $2.8 billion order for 10 SAS
A380 freighters. As such, Airbus lost the last customer on the freighter
version
of its superjumbo jet.

if airbus was supported by the governments it would have died years ago.
its the chrystler of the air.

Whaaat?

"Ray O'Hara" wrote in message
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if airbus was supported by the governments it would have died years ago.
its the chrystler of the air.


But Airbus is supported by Governments - That's why it has lasted.

The Chrysler analogy is wrong. The U.S. guaranteed loans IF Chrysler
defaulted. They didn't, and the U.S. government never paid a penny to "bail
out " Chrysler. Chrysler paid off all it's loans the old fashioned way, by
making money with innovative products consumers wanted to buy. Sadly they
seem to have lost that ability.

Les

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http://www.playfuls.com/news_09_3987...r-for-10-Airbu
s-A 380-Freighters.html

Fearing Airbus will not be able to deliver before the new revised
deadline in 2012, United Parcel Service Inc., the world's largest
package shipper, has announced it will scrap their $2.8 billion order
for 10 SAS A380 freighters. As such, Airbus lost the last customer on
the freighter
version
of its superjumbo jet.

if airbus was supported by the governments it would have died years
ago.
its the chrystler of the air.


Boeing gets all the boosts government wants
to give it via it's military orders. Airbus doesn't
have that option.

"Jim Morris" wrote in
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http://www.playfuls.com/news_09_3987...r-for-10-Airbu
s-A380-Freighters.html

Fearing Airbus will not be able to deliver before the new revised
deadline in 2012, United Parcel Service Inc., the world's largest
package shipper, has announced it will scrap their $2.8 billion order
for 10 SAS A380 freighters. As such, Airbus lost the last customer on
the freighter version of its superjumbo jet.

FedEx Corp. dropped its 10-aircraft order in November, and International
Lease Finance Corp., the world's largest plane lessor, switched its
order for five freighters to passenger versions of the A380 a month
later.

"UPS had intended to complete an internal study of whether it could wait
until 2012 for the aircraft, but now understands Airbus is diverting
employees from the A380 freighter program to work on the passenger
version of the plane," the shipping company said.

"Based on our previous discussions, we had felt that 2012 was a
reasonable estimate of when Airbus could supply this plane," David
Abney, UPS chief operating officer and president of UPS Airline, said in
a statement. "We no longer are confident that Airbus can adhere to that
schedule."

UPS is concerned that Airbus has shifted employees from the A380
freighter program to work on the passenger version of the plane, which
makes much more money. Airbus said on Thursday development of the A380F
freighter had been "temporarily cut off... so that all capacities can be
directed at the A380 passenger version".

"Airbus is disappointed that UPS intends to cancel the A380 freighter
order," said Justin Dubon, a spokesman for Airbus in Toulouse, France.
"We respect the airline's decision, and this is consistent with the
agreement we reached last week."

UPS ordered its first 10 A380 aircraft in January 2005 for use on
U.S.-Asia routes. The triple-decker freighter has 2.4 times the lift
capacity of a Boeing 747, a big advantage for long routes with limited
number of flights.

FedEx, after canceling its A380 order with Airbus in November, announced
it would purchase 15 U.S.-made Boeing 777 freighters with an option to
buy 15 more.

Richard Branson's Virgin Atlantic, which has six A380's on order, said
it expects to decide within a month whether it will acquire new Airbus
or Boeing planes to help it deal with the delay. Virgin Atlantic will
receive, hopefully, their planes in 2013 if additional delays are not
announced.

Airbus sees the A380F, which has a range of 10,400 kilometers and is
capable of carrying 150 tons of freight, as a rival to Boeing's 777F.

I just wonder how much more the A380 cancellations are going to tear
into Airbus' bottom line. Maybe the 'worlds largest airliner' was not a
good idea or maybe the wrong climate. The employees and contractors and
suppliers the world over are going to be hit hard, again!


Remember the good old days when there were more
than two long haul airline builders in the world?

Mitchell Holman wrote:

Remember the good old days when there were more
than two long haul airline builders in the world?

Airline builders?

Mitchell Holman wrote in
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Boeing gets all the boosts government wants
to give it via it's military orders. Airbus doesn't
have that option.

What planet are you living on? Ever heard of the Eurofighter?

http://www.eads.net/1024/en/Trailer_EADS.html

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Remember the good old days when there were more
than two long haul airline builders in the world?

Yes I do. Used to be 10-15 or so. Now there are only 2 building the "big"
ones.
Mitch, do you think the 787 Dreamliner will look as classy as the Connie?
Doubtful.

Jim Morris

"Jim Morris" wrote in message
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Remember the good old days when there were more
than two long haul airline builders in the world?

Yes I do. Used to be 10-15 or so. Now there are only 2 building the "big"
ones.
Mitch, do you think the 787 Dreamliner will look as classy as the Connie?
Doubtful.

Jim Morris

Real airliners have round engines that snort, belch and fart when you start
them up.

Real airliners run on high octane avgas, not computer chips.

Real airliners have passengers who wear fancy clothes and look down
(literally) on the peasants.

Real airliners have grace and style

http://www.coastcomp.com/av/fltline2/airlin50.htm

Jim Morris