F-111 over Nam

In article . net,
meport wrote:

There was a segment about the F-111 and it's "introduction" into combat. It
seems that there were two very serious design flaws with the plane - the
movable wings would not move fast enough at low speeds, the speeds the
airplane needed to be at for low level operations, if they had to be moved
so the plane could accelerate out of danger if it started taking a lot of
ground fire and the avionics were not sophisticated enough to handle all
weather ground hugging flight in a tropical climate.

Whatever are you talking about?? Low speeds for low level
operations?? Howabout lugging a "slant eight" load of CBU 58s or Mk
82s at 540K/200AGL. And, at that speed, the wings would probably be at
54 anyway. Accelerate outta danger?? They were already at "the speed
of heat" on the way in, and faster yet on the way out, perhaps with
the wings at 72, if needed. The TFR worked fine except for isolated
areas of intense rainfall, and I stress "intense." It was also
suspected that later on, the Gomers were experimenting with highly
directional electronic countermeasures against the TFR. The initial
Harvest Reaper crashes were, apparently, due to a suspect weld in a
relatively small rod in the slab power actuator assembly. When the
rods were redesigned, the crashes stopped, and the A-model Vark went
on to a distinguished career in SEA, especially during Linebacker II.

Phil Brandt
F-111A WSO (Ret.)

Isn't that exactly what I said? That those movable wings wouldn't move the
way they were designed to move at slow speeds? That they needed to be
fixed?

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If you get what you want, what's to stop you
from asking for more?

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In article . net,
meport wrote:

There was a segment about the F-111 and it's "introduction" into
combat. It
seems that there were two very serious design flaws with the plane -
the
movable wings would not move fast enough at low speeds, the speeds the
airplane needed to be at for low level operations, if they had to be
moved
so the plane could accelerate out of danger if it started taking a lot
of
ground fire and the avionics were not sophisticated enough to handle
all
weather ground hugging flight in a tropical climate.

Whatever are you talking about?? Low speeds for low level
operations?? Howabout lugging a "slant eight" load of CBU 58s or Mk
82s at 540K/200AGL. And, at that speed, the wings would probably be at
54 anyway. Accelerate outta danger?? They were already at "the speed
of heat" on the way in, and faster yet on the way out, perhaps with
the wings at 72, if needed. The TFR worked fine except for isolated
areas of intense rainfall, and I stress "intense." It was also
suspected that later on, the Gomers were experimenting with highly
directional electronic countermeasures against the TFR. The initial
Harvest Reaper crashes were, apparently, due to a suspect weld in a
relatively small rod in the slab power actuator assembly. When the
rods were redesigned, the crashes stopped, and the A-model Vark went
on to a distinguished career in SEA, especially during Linebacker II.

Phil Brandt
F-111A WSO (Ret.)

"meport" wrote in message
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Isn't that exactly what I said? That those movable wings wouldn't move
the
way they were designed to move at slow speeds? That they needed to be
fixed?

Take that as a lesson, johnboy:

Nobody gives a **** what you say.

ted

References:
Posted by: "Ted Gittinger"

Nobody gives a **** what you say.

John... it's my opinion, based entirely upon anecdotal evidence, of
course, that Mr. Gittinger just doesn't *like* you very much.

Are you getting those same vibes?

Jones

meport wrote:

Isn't that exactly what I said? That those movable wings wouldn't move the
way they were designed to move at slow speeds? That they needed to be
fixed?

No, it isn't. The weld referred to was in the slab tailplane (stabilator)
actuator rod, and had nothing to do with the wing, moving or otherwise. There
were also failures of the wing carry through box for a time, but that also had
nothing to do with sweeping the wing.

Guy

He's just a back woods hillbilly from some hollow in the mountains of west
virginia or one of those places where the doctor counts how many fingers and
toes the baby has when the baby is born to see how interbred the baby is.
When he was born, the doctor lopped of two extra toes and one extra finger
so he'd appear somewhat normal. But the oversized head and slopping brow is
still a dead give away, anyhow.
--
If you get what you want, what's to stop you
from asking for more?

"!Jones" wrote in message
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References:
Posted by: "Ted Gittinger"

Nobody gives a **** what you say.

John... it's my opinion, based entirely upon anecdotal evidence, of
course, that Mr. Gittinger just doesn't *like* you very much.

Are you getting those same vibes?

Jones

"meport" wrote in message

He's just a back woods hillbilly from some hollow in the mountains of west
virginia .....snip....

Gen. "Chuck" Yeager was from West Virginia! He seemed to have turned out
okay?

Genetics is not an exact science. There's always a few recessive genes that
sometimes kick in and stir up the stew a little.

--
If you get what you want, what's to stop you
from asking for more?

"Phineas Pinkham" wrote in message
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"meport" wrote in message

He's just a back woods hillbilly from some hollow in the mountains of
west
virginia .....snip....

Gen. "Chuck" Yeager was from West Virginia! He seemed to have turned out
okay?