flying into SFO at night?

On Jun 6, 4:10 pm, Dave J wrote:

Of course, the AF/D (or even airnav.com) has all the answers you need.

-- dave j

Yeah, but the information I'm looking for isn't the kind of info
you'll find on airnav or the AFD. If someone wanted to go take a trip
to my home airport, I'd write for them a few paragraphs of stuff it's
be good for them to know; none of which is in the AFD. You know,
common reporting points the tower requests, typical taxi routes, local
phraseology, stuff like that. Normally you can just kind of roll with
it, but in a complicated Class B environment (especially at night),
I'd hate to get stuck with something like a common taxi instruction I
can't understand and have to ask the controller to repeat multiple
times.

buttman wrote:
Yeah, but the information I'm looking for isn't the kind of info
you'll find on airnav or the AFD. If someone wanted to go take a trip
to my home airport, I'd write for them a few paragraphs of stuff it's
be good for them to know; none of which is in the AFD. You know,
common reporting points the tower requests, typical taxi routes, local
phraseology, stuff like that. Normally you can just kind of roll with
it, but in a complicated Class B environment (especially at night),
I'd hate to get stuck with something like a common taxi instruction I
can't understand and have to ask the controller to repeat multiple
times.

I used to live a few minutes from SFO.
I can't imagine why anyone would want to land there in anything smaller
than a biz jet at any hour. There are several GA airports in close
proximity.

On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:21:53 -0700, Sylvain wrote:

Sylvain wrote:


SJC closes at night as well

I meant, the tower of SJC closes at night

There's no pump-yourself gas at KSQL. I'm not sure when the guy in
the Chevron truck goes home, but it's probably before the tower
closes.

Don

buttman wrote:
I'm thinking of doing a night flight to SFO in a C152. Is this going
to be difficult? Will they let me in? Is that place very busy at
night? I plan on arriving at about midnight. Would a touch and go be
possible, or will they make me do a full stop? If so, where can I
expect to taxi and get fuel? If I have to taxi all around the huge and
complex airport, I'll just land somewhere else and get fuel, rather
than risk getting lost and then ran over by a 747.

What about any other bay area airports that are GA friendly during the
night?


You're an instructor?

If so, do you introduce your students to the AF/D, airport diagrams,
progressive taxi instructions, and so on?

In article om,
buttman wrote:

I'm thinking of doing a night flight to SFO in a C152. Is this going
to be difficult? Will they let me in? Is that place very busy at
night? I plan on arriving at about midnight. Would a touch and go be
possible, or will they make me do a full stop? If so, where can I
expect to taxi and get fuel? If I have to taxi all around the huge and
complex airport, I'll just land somewhere else and get fuel, rather
than risk getting lost and then ran over by a 747.

It's very unlikely that a 152 would get run over by a 747 at SFO. They
really try hard to prevent FOD incidents like that. Too much paperwork to
fill out afterwards.

I used to fly into OAK every night for a living, landing in the wee small
hours. Much easier to get around than is SFO.

Bob Gardner

"buttman" wrote in message
ps.com...
I'm thinking of doing a night flight to SFO in a C152. Is this going
to be difficult? Will they let me in? Is that place very busy at
night? I plan on arriving at about midnight. Would a touch and go be
possible, or will they make me do a full stop? If so, where can I
expect to taxi and get fuel? If I have to taxi all around the huge and
complex airport, I'll just land somewhere else and get fuel, rather
than risk getting lost and then ran over by a 747.

What about any other bay area airports that are GA friendly during the
night?

Sylvain wrote:
Dave J wrote:

Among the rest, your stuck with the highly limited choices of HWD,
SQL, PAO, APC, DVO, RHV. Most of their towers will be closed at
midnight, but I'm not aware of any curfews that will affect a 152.


SJC closes at night as well (can't remember the time and I don't have
my AF/D with me);

I'd like to land in KSFO too eventually, the only Bay Area airport
missing in my list :-) (did land in KNUQ a few times doing Young
Eagles flights). My plan was to call the tower on the phone and
ask them what time would be the least inconvenient. :-)

--Sylvain

I kown a pilot here in the Dallas Fort Worth area that flew his C-152
into DFW airport and pick up his girl friend. He wrote a report on it
and it was great. He did call ahead to find the best time. Also during
the great Y2K, there was a girl flying at midnight and did a touch and
go at DFW. No one was around.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI

On Jun 7, 7:57 am, "Bob Gardner" wrote:
I used to fly into OAK every night for a living, landing in the wee small
hours. Much easier to get around than is SFO.

Bob Gardner

"buttman" wrote in message

ps.com...

I'm thinking of doing a night flight to SFO in a C152. Is this going
to be difficult? Will they let me in? Is that place very busy at
night? I plan on arriving at about midnight. Would a touch and go be
possible, or will they make me do a full stop? If so, where can I
expect to taxi and get fuel? If I have to taxi all around the huge and
complex airport, I'll just land somewhere else and get fuel, rather
than risk getting lost and then ran over by a 747.

What about any other bay area airports that are GA friendly during the
night?

Yeah, I'm thinking it'd be better to go to Oakland instead. Can I
expect to get cleared into the bravo, or will they make me maneuver
around it? I don't think it'd be very fun to have to duck around all
that complicated airspace, especially at night.

buttman wrote in
oups.com:

On Jun 7, 7:57 am, "Bob Gardner" wrote:
I used to fly into OAK every night for a living, landing in the wee
small hours. Much easier to get around than is SFO.

Bob Gardner

"buttman" wrote in message

ps.com...

I'm thinking of doing a night flight to SFO in a C152. Is this
going to be difficult? Will they let me in? Is that place very busy
at night? I plan on arriving at about midnight. Would a touch and
go be possible, or will they make me do a full stop? If so, where
can I expect to taxi and get fuel? If I have to taxi all around the
huge and complex airport, I'll just land somewhere else and get
fuel, rather than risk getting lost and then ran over by a 747.

What about any other bay area airports that are GA friendly during
the night?

Yeah, I'm thinking it'd be better to go to Oakland instead. Can I
expect to get cleared into the bravo, or will they make me maneuver
around it? I don't think it'd be very fun to have to duck around all
that complicated airspace, especially at night.


Make sure you watch out fer them utther airyplanes, bozo.

Bertie

buttman wrote in news:1181182294.943767.83040
@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com:

On Jun 6, 4:10 pm, Dave J wrote:

Of course, the AF/D (or even airnav.com) has all the answers you need.

-- dave j

Yeah, but the information I'm looking for isn't the kind of info
you'll find on airnav or the AFD.

What, you want to see if there's anyone there who wil object to your
ignorance of RT and traffic rules?

Bertie