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Old July 7th 07, 01:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Crash Lander[_1_]
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Default Type ratings.

Maybe a stupid question, but ..........
How do you get type rated on aircraft that are not easily available for
hire? I mean for example, say I did all my training in a Cessna 152. I
wouldn't be type rated for a 182 would I? So, I want to get a 182 type
rating, but no airfield near me has one for hire or training. If I know
another pilot that owns one, can I just get an instructor to give me a check
ride in the friends a/c?
Not sure I explained that correctly.
Imagine I have done all my training in a Skyfox, and I want to buy say a
Tecnam. If nobody has a Tecnam for hire, how do I get my rating for it?
Crash Lander

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Old July 7th 07, 02:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Vaughn Simon
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Default Type ratings.


"Crash Lander" wrote in message
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Maybe a stupid question, but ..........
How do you get type rated on aircraft that are not easily available for hire?


Hey Lander, be sure to remind everyone where you live. The answer to your
question here in the US of A is that there is no such thing as type ratings for
small aircraft, but things may be very different in your world.

Vaughn


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Old July 7th 07, 02:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Type ratings.

"Vaughn Simon" wrote in message
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"Crash Lander" wrote in message
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Maybe a stupid question, but ..........
How do you get type rated on aircraft that are not easily available for
hire?


Hey Lander, be sure to remind everyone where you live. The answer to
your question here in the US of A is that there is no such thing as type
ratings for small aircraft, but things may be very different in your
world.

Vaughn


Good point Vaughn. I'm Down Under.
If nobody can answer, it's ok, I'll ask at the flying school in a few weeks
when I get back there. It's just when a question pops in your head, you just
gotta know now! lol!
Crash Lander
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Old July 7th 07, 02:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
john hawkins
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Default Type ratings.

Well sorta in the USA:
Type & category
Single Engine Land
Multi Engine Land
Single Engine Sea
Multi Engine Sea

you get the idea.

You need a log book endorsement for complex aircraft tailwheel- Unless
you're old -
Now in practice if you want to fly MY airplane, Rated or not I want to see
how you can fly it before I let you go.
you do need a type rating for a turbojet power aircraft


"Vaughn Simon" wrote in message
...

"Crash Lander" wrote in message
...
Maybe a stupid question, but ..........
How do you get type rated on aircraft that are not easily available for
hire?


Hey Lander, be sure to remind everyone where you live. The answer to
your question here in the US of A is that there is no such thing as type
ratings for small aircraft, but things may be very different in your
world.

Vaughn



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Old July 7th 07, 02:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Type ratings.

Crash Lander wrote:
Maybe a stupid question, but ..........
How do you get type rated on aircraft that are not easily available for
hire? I mean for example, say I did all my training in a Cessna 152. I
wouldn't be type rated for a 182 would I? So, I want to get a 182 type
rating, but no airfield near me has one for hire or training. If I know
another pilot that owns one, can I just get an instructor to give me a check
ride in the friends a/c?
Not sure I explained that correctly.
Imagine I have done all my training in a Skyfox, and I want to buy say a
Tecnam. If nobody has a Tecnam for hire, how do I get my rating for it?
Crash Lander


It doesn't work that way in the US. For GA aircraft there are endorsements
for things like tailwheel, complex, etc. but no type ratings.

Which brings up the question, if there are no airplanes available, why
bother to try to get rated in it?

If you are buying, just make sure there is an "official" PIC for
test flights. Once you own it, it is available and the problem
goes away. I had to do this when I bought to keep the insurance co
happy.

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Old July 7th 07, 02:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Crash Lander[_1_]
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Default Type ratings.

"john hawkins" wrote in message
. net...
Well sorta in the USA:
Type & category
Single Engine Land
Multi Engine Land
Single Engine Sea
Multi Engine Sea

you get the idea.

You need a log book endorsement for complex aircraft tailwheel- Unless
you're old -
Now in practice if you want to fly MY airplane, Rated or not I want to see
how you can fly it before I let you go.
you do need a type rating for a turbojet power aircraft


Yeah, I knew about that side of it, but that's a broader view of what I
mean.
I didn't think I could jump from a Skyfox into say a Drifter without some
training. (legally I'm talking). Now, not many places rent Drifters, so how
does someone get to be able to fly one, if nobody hires them?
Maybe I'm thinking there are more restrictions than there in fact are. I'll
wait and check it out at the school in a few weeks. Thanks guys.
Crash Lander
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But I'm never wrong!


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Old July 7th 07, 02:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Crash Lander[_1_]
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Default Type ratings.

wrote in message
...
If you are buying, just make sure there is an "official" PIC for
test flights. Once you own it, it is available and the problem
goes away. I had to do this when I bought to keep the insurance co
happy.

--
Jim Pennino

This is the bit I'm talking about. If I buy an a/c that nobody has for rent,
how do I get legally rated to fly it. Di I just get an instructor to give me
a check rife in it? What if I can't find an instructor who has actually
flown that particular a/c.
For example, I might want to buy a Karatoo. (Ultralight 2 seater)
I've flown a Gazelle ultralight 2 seater, and that is the only a/c I can
legally fly, but nobody rents the Karatoo, so if I buy one, what do I do to
be able to legally fly it?
I know it all hypothetical, (for the foreseeable future!), but it's just
something that popped into my head this morning.
I may be assuming limitations where none in fact exist. I'll ask at the
school in a few weeks when I get back there. Thanks again.
Crash Lander
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http://straightandlevel1973.spaces.live.com/
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But I'm never wrong!


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Old July 7th 07, 03:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe
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Default Type ratings.

"Crash Lander" wrote in message
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"john hawkins" wrote in message

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I didn't think I could jump from a Skyfox into say a Drifter without some
training. (legally I'm talking). Now, not many places rent Drifters, so
how does someone get to be able to fly one, if nobody hires them?
Maybe I'm thinking there are more restrictions than there in fact are.
I'll wait and check it out at the school in a few weeks. Thanks guys.
Crash Lander



Well, if no one rents them, then the only time you would need to get a
rating is if you bought one - right? Then, you have your own to get the
rating in?
(At least, that's what makes sense to me - not that I know anything about
the rules in Australia)

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Old July 7th 07, 03:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Type ratings.

Crash Lander wrote:
wrote in message
...
If you are buying, just make sure there is an "official" PIC for
test flights. Once you own it, it is available and the problem
goes away. I had to do this when I bought to keep the insurance co
happy.

--
Jim Pennino

This is the bit I'm talking about. If I buy an a/c that nobody has for rent,
how do I get legally rated to fly it. Di I just get an instructor to give me
a check rife in it? What if I can't find an instructor who has actually
flown that particular a/c.
For example, I might want to buy a Karatoo. (Ultralight 2 seater)
I've flown a Gazelle ultralight 2 seater, and that is the only a/c I can
legally fly, but nobody rents the Karatoo, so if I buy one, what do I do to
be able to legally fly it?
I know it all hypothetical, (for the foreseeable future!), but it's just
something that popped into my head this morning.
I may be assuming limitations where none in fact exist. I'll ask at the
school in a few weeks when I get back there. Thanks again.


Unless you are buying something really obscure, I would doubt you would
have much of a problem finding an instructor to check you out once you
owned it.

In my case, the insurance required a checkout so I just went to the
local flight school and asked if there were any instructors with
Tiger experience. It turned out there were a couple, one of which
used to be a Tiger dealer, so I scheduled the checkout with him on
his first available day (three days after I took possesion).

And yes, it was tempting to go fly the airplane before the checkout.

So, once you decide on what you want to buy, start looking for the
instructor and you will have plenty of time to make arrangements
for the checkout.

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Jim Pennino

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Old July 7th 07, 03:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Crash Lander[_1_]
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Default Type ratings.

"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com wrote in message
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"Crash Lander" wrote in message
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Well, if no one rents them, then the only time you would need to get a
rating is if you bought one - right? Then, you have your own to get the
rating in?
(At least, that's what makes sense to me - not that I know anything about
the rules in Australia)

--
Geoff


Well, that's what I figured, but then I guess the challenge is on to find an
instructor that has experience in that particular type of a/c.
Crash Lander
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But I'm never wrong!


 




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