GPS Cellphone Tracking - Track Anyone Anytime Anywhere

On 25 Jul, 21:55, wrote:
Robert M. Gary wrote:





On Jul 25, 11:45 am, wrote:
Peter R. wrote:
On 7/25/2007 1:48:51 PM, "GpsSpying.Com" wrote:
Track anyone, anyutime, anywhere using their
cellphone number.
I doubt it works. More likely a cell phone harvest of some type.

Maybe it works someplace, but not in the US in general.

Current rules (for the nitpickers: simplified, add detail as you desire)
say the GPS tracking stuff in the cell phone is only enabled in an
emergency, e.g. a 911 call, or if you have signed up with the carrier
for such service for personal reasons such as tracking your kids.

--
Jim Pennino

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We've used cell phone tracking for SAR in CAP. However, you have to
work directly with the cell phone provider, it doesn't appear that
there is any software that simply says "you are here", its an engineer
looking over stuff giving you his opinion. Even at that, the possible
range was pretty large as I recall.
-Robert

That was probably by cell site triangulation, which gives you a big
area and one of the reasons why the Feds are pushing E911.

With the new phones with built in GPS (which eventually are supposed
to replace all existing cell phones) the accuracy is, well, GPS
accuracy.

If anyone wants all the gory details about GPS in cell phones, you
can go tohttp://www.fcc.govand search for E911.

Mobile phone tracking is available as a commercial service
in the UK using the 'triangulation' method.

http://www.followus.co.uk/how_accurate_is_it.html

"We have seen mobile phone accuracy as precise as 100m in central
London (where there are many cell masts) and as inaccurate as 10km in
the Scottish Highlands(where there are few cell masts)."

With the new phones with built in GPS


There are but a very few.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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With the new phones with built in GPS


There are but a very few.

What? 100% of the phones sold here have GPS. It's law.
--
Jim in NC

On Jul 26, 8:02 am, "Morgans" wrote:
"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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With the new phones with built in GPS

There are but a very few.

What? 100% of the phones sold here have GPS. It's law.

U.S. carriers have a choice of either using a builtin GPS, or cell
tower triangulation. Most use the triangulation, but that's slowly
changing. Either method is soon required to be accurate within 100
yards or so. Great if you're in the country, but less useful in a
big city full of apartments.

Kev

Morgans,

What? 100% of the phones sold here have GPS. It's law.


BS.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Thomas Borchert wrote:
With the new phones with built in GPS


There are but a very few.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Well, yes and no.

First, E911 is a US program, so obviously it doesn't apply anywhere else.

--Simplified Explaination--

The E911 program mandates cell carriers increase the accuracy of
cell phone location.

The program is implemented in phases.

In the intial phases, carriers have the option of either increasing
their triangulation accuracy or going to GPS phones.

Some carriers have chosen one method, some the other.

The majority of the major cell carriers chose the GPS method.

Here's some timetable stuff from the FCC:

Nextel: by Dec 31, 2005, 95% of all handsets must be GPS.
Sprint: by Dec 31, 2005, 95% of all handsets must be GPS.
Verizon: by Dec 31, 2005, 95% of all handsets must be GPS.

ALLTEL is also going GPS, but I can't find their schedule.

It is now 2007.

It is getting difficult to get a cell phone without GPS in the US.

All the details are at http://www.fcc.gov

--
Jim Pennino

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The police in the US can do it. And you don't have to be talking on
your cellphone, it just has to be on. They need the cooperation of the
cellphone company, and that is SUPPOSED to requre a warrant (I
believe). All cellphones sold in US have a GPS chip. This does not
mean your cell phone has GPS navigation. They have sold all of this
because of the 911 desire to locate a 911 caller. But it's another Big
Brother item as well.

If you are concerned about this sort of thing, you really should
contribute to the ACLU. They fight abuse of this sort of stuff better
than anyone.

Doug wrote:
The police in the US can do it. And you don't have to be talking on
your cellphone, it just has to be on. They need the cooperation of the
cellphone company, and that is SUPPOSED to requre a warrant (I
believe). All cellphones sold in US have a GPS chip. This does not
mean your cell phone has GPS navigation. They have sold all of this
because of the 911 desire to locate a 911 caller. But it's another Big
Brother item as well.

If you are concerned about this sort of thing, you really should
contribute to the ACLU. They fight abuse of this sort of stuff better
than anyone.


ALL CELL PHONES IN THE US DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE A GPS CHIP.

All cell phones will have to conform to a E911 standard. Of the big boys
Verizon, Sprint and Alltel are using a version that uses GPS. AT&T is using
one that uses triangulation.

As more people use cell phones as their only phone line having E911
available is important.

While the ability to use your cell phone to find you will be enhanced with
E911. Don't think for a second that the government could not have done it
and did do it before E911.

Everyone knows that the only way to protect yourself from Big Brother is to
wear a tin foil hat.

Gig 601XL Builder wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:
Doug wrote:
The police in the US can do it. And you don't have to be talking on
your cellphone, it just has to be on. They need the cooperation of the
cellphone company, and that is SUPPOSED to requre a warrant (I
believe). All cellphones sold in US have a GPS chip. This does not
mean your cell phone has GPS navigation. They have sold all of this
because of the 911 desire to locate a 911 caller. But it's another Big
Brother item as well.

If you are concerned about this sort of thing, you really should
contribute to the ACLU. They fight abuse of this sort of stuff better
than anyone.


ALL CELL PHONES IN THE US DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE A GPS CHIP.

All cell phones will have to conform to a E911 standard. Of the big boys
Verizon, Sprint and Alltel are using a version that uses GPS. AT&T is using
one that uses triangulation.

As more people use cell phones as their only phone line having E911
available is important.

While the ability to use your cell phone to find you will be enhanced with
E911. Don't think for a second that the government could not have done it
and did do it before E911.

Everyone knows that the only way to protect yourself from Big Brother is to
wear a tin foil hat.

Yes, but to get onto a carrier's service that chose GPS, you must have
a GPS enabled phone.

The practical result of that will be that eventually it will be difficult
if not impossible to buy a phone in the US without GPS.

--
Jim Pennino

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wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:
Doug wrote:
The police in the US can do it. And you don't have to be talking on
your cellphone, it just has to be on. They need the cooperation of
the cellphone company, and that is SUPPOSED to requre a warrant (I
believe). All cellphones sold in US have a GPS chip. This does not
mean your cell phone has GPS navigation. They have sold all of this
because of the 911 desire to locate a 911 caller. But it's another
Big Brother item as well.

If you are concerned about this sort of thing, you really should
contribute to the ACLU. They fight abuse of this sort of stuff
better than anyone.


ALL CELL PHONES IN THE US DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE A GPS CHIP.

All cell phones will have to conform to a E911 standard. Of the big
boys Verizon, Sprint and Alltel are using a version that uses GPS.
AT&T is using one that uses triangulation.

As more people use cell phones as their only phone line having E911
available is important.

While the ability to use your cell phone to find you will be
enhanced with E911. Don't think for a second that the government
could not have done it and did do it before E911.

Everyone knows that the only way to protect yourself from Big
Brother is to wear a tin foil hat.

Yes, but to get onto a carrier's service that chose GPS, you must have
a GPS enabled phone.

The practical result of that will be that eventually it will be
difficult if not impossible to buy a phone in the US without GPS.


No, you will be able to buy one from one of the largest companies in the US.
AT&T.