How do you submit a NOTAM?

On Aug 31, 7:48 pm, wrote:
On Aug 31, 7:45 pm, B A R R Y wrote:

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:51:34 -0400, "Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea
Hawk at wow way d0t com wrote:

The experts on this sort of thing are over on rec.models.rockets...

Really.

I second that.

Really.

Note the "Unmanned Rocket" NOTAMS in a given area.

I'll ask the rocket group, but FAA the rules for unmanned free-
balloons are very different from the rockets.

-John


I did some more searching on the web and I think I found my answers.
Thanks all.

-John

john. wrote I did some more searching on the web and I think I found my
answers.

Thanks all.

Well, don't leave us hangin', dude!

I'm sure that I'm not the only one that is curious as to what you found out.
That's how it is around here; always anxious to learn something that I
didn't know when I got out of bed this morning.

At least that is the way I am!
--
Jim in NC

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
m...
El Maximo wrote:


I once called Flight Service because there was no NOTAM for a 1000' unlit
tower. They told me that there was nothing they could do because it
wasn't my tower.

That would have really sucked if someone had hit it.
They told you wrong. 200 feet is the threshold. We specifically built
a 199' tower to avoid having to worry about it at our station.

Let me rephrase:

There is a tower near my house that is over 1000'. It is frequently (a few
times a year) NOTAMed as unlit. One time I noticed the lights were not
working. I called Flight Service and was told that they would do nothing
about it based on my phone call, because I did not control the tower.

What he said.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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Please forgive my ignorance as I learn to read an aeronautical chart.
Looking at the legend it appears Class E is the purple gradient circle
and Class C is the solid line around Nashville. How do you interpret
that 36N 87W is in Class E, as it is outside that gradient circle? Is
Class E space "just everywhere" like Class A? If it is, why label it
separately on charts?


Look at the chart legend under "Airport Traffic Service and Airspace
Information". Just beneath the airspace symbology is the statement,
"Class E Airspace exists at 1200' AGL unless otherwise designated as shown
above."

On Aug 31, 8:16 pm, "Morgans" wrote:

Well, don't leave us hangin', dude!

I'm sure that I'm not the only one that is curious as to what you found out.


Sorry bout that. It didn't seem like anyone knew or cared much about
balloons since I kept hearing about rockets and antennas. ;-)

For some reason a few weeks ago in Google I couldn't find much, but I
searched again and found a blog where someone was also sending up a
balloon. They contacted the FAA in their area and the FAA has this to
say:

BEGIN QUOTE

Per our phone conversation. If you are less than the applicability
section, you do not need a waiver. If you are more than the
applicability, but can meet all the remaining requirements under the
highlighted sections operating limitations and marking, you still
don't need a waiver. Instead, we would just give you the phone number
of the nearest ATC facility to contact to meet the notification
requirements. If there is no waiver, there is no NOTAM. The AFSS only
issues a NOTAM if there is a waiver. Give me a call when you decide
where you're at within the part 101 and we'll go from there.

Cheryl Krieger Brown
System Support Specialist
FAA ATO, Western Service Center
1601 Lind Ave. SW
Renton, WA 98057

END QUOTE

Key part there is "The AFSS only issues a NOTAM if there is a waiver"

So my particular flight is not applicable by the FAA rules, so there
will be no waiver and no NOTAM. I already read the regulations once,
but I found a nice annotated version he http://www.eoss.org/pubs/far_annotated.htm
I'm less than 4lbs and will not be a hazard so subpart D does not
apply so I don't even have to notify the ATC.

That's how it is around here; always anxious to learn something that I
didn't know when I got out of bed this morning.

At least that is the way I am!

I hear you. Thanks again to Steven for helping me with the charts!

-John

"El Maximo" wrote in message ...
"Ron Natalie" wrote in message m...
El Maximo wrote:


I once called Flight Service because there was no NOTAM for a 1000' unlit tower. They told me that there was nothing
they could do because it wasn't my tower.

That would have really sucked if someone had hit it.
They told you wrong. 200 feet is the threshold. We specifically built
a 199' tower to avoid having to worry about it at our station.

Let me rephrase:

There is a tower near my house that is over 1000'. It is frequently (a few times a year) NOTAMed as unlit. One time I
noticed the lights were not working. I called Flight Service and was told that they would do nothing about it based on
my phone call, because I did not control the tower.


Tell them it is a PIREP

you will need to contact the local FAA Flight Standards District Office for
the assist formatting and issuing the proper NOTAM.
you do not have the authority to issue a notam


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Hello,

New to aviation and I would like to know how to submit a NOTAM. I plan
to launch an unmanned free balloon a few months from now with a
payload of scientific instruments weighing less than 4lbs. The
projected flight-path will take the balloon only through CLASS G and A
airspace (and maybe Class E). According the FAA, an unmanned free-
balloon with a payload less than 4 lbs does not require prior
notification before launch. However, I think it would be prudent to
submit a NOTAM.

I would love to hear anyone's experience on on unmanned free-balloons
- should I really not worry about the NOTAM? Either way, I would like
to know more about submitting them.

Thanks,
John

"John Godwin" wrote in message
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I guess that I was extremely lucky because it was back in 1956 when
there were REAL Flight Service Stations. g


There were no Flight Service Stations in 1956. On March 1, 1960, Air
Traffic Communications Stations were renamed Flight Service Stations.

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On Aug 31, 8:16 pm, "Morgans" wrote:
Well, don't leave us hangin', dude!

I'm sure that I'm not the only one that is curious as to what you found out.


Sorry bout that. It didn't seem like anyone knew or cared much about
balloons since I kept hearing about rockets and antennas. ;-)

We're an easily-distracted lot. Short attention spans and all that...

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Ohhh! I see, the purple gradients are for Class E with a floor of
700', and that's why they show it separately.This really helps my
understanding.


It's magenta.



So does Class E have any special restrictions on unmanned free-
balloons?


Yes. Unless otherwise authorized by ATC, no person may operate an unmanned
free balloon below 2,000 feet above the surface within the lateral
boundaries of a Class E surface area. A surface area exists when controlled
airspace begins at the surface.




The FAA guidelines on unmanned free balloons says nothing
about airspace classes, only payload. I just thought it wise to avoid
the Class C airspace in my area all together.


See FAR Part 101- Moored Balloons, Kites, Unmanned Rockets and Unmanned Free
Balloons.

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