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  #11  
Old October 17th 03, 01:02 PM
tscottme
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NEMO ME IMPUNE wrote in message
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OK, M. Irby try to make us think that France sold Nukes, or tools to

make
them to Sadam. But, who sold them those Anthrax and others biological
weapons? And M Irby is always speaking of M. Chirac. Why he did'nt

adress m.
Donald (or Mickey?) RUMSFELD?


No, France sold a nuclear reactor, Germany sold the centrifuges and
tools to make nukes. France and Germany were Saddam's biggest trade
partners and they were the ones that were pushing to lift sanctions on
Iraq. Don't forget the contracts Saddam signed with the French and the
Russians that would take effect once sanctions were ended.

If the French and Germans got their way Saddam's children's prison would
still be full, Saddam would still be filling mass graves, and Saddam
would be writing handsome checks to the French and Germans, not just the
English MPs on his payroll.

--

Scott
--------
"Interestingly, we started to lose this war only after the embedded
reporters pulled out. Back when we got the news directly from Iraq,
there was victory and optimism. Now that the news is filtered through
the mainstream media here in America, all we hear is death and
destruction and quagmire..." Ann Coulter
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2003/091703.htm


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Old October 17th 03, 01:57 PM
iowa
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No, France sold a nuclear reactor, Germany sold the centrifuges and
tools to make nukes. France and Germany were Saddam's biggest trade
partners and they were the ones that were pushing to lift sanctions on
Iraq. Don't forget the contracts Saddam signed with the French and the
Russians that would take effect once sanctions were ended.

If the French and Germans got their way Saddam's children's prison would
still be full,


And the american pedophiles wouldn't **** them....

Saddam would still be filling mass graves, and Saddam
would be writing handsome checks to the French and Germans, not just the
English MPs on his payroll.


English pedoporno amateurs are very glad to usa...

You are totally idiot *ROTFL*



  #13  
Old October 17th 03, 02:51 PM
M. J. Powell
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In message , tscottme
writes
NEMO ME IMPUNE wrote in message
...
OK, M. Irby try to make us think that France sold Nukes, or tools to

make
them to Sadam. But, who sold them those Anthrax and others biological
weapons? And M Irby is always speaking of M. Chirac. Why he did'nt

adress m.
Donald (or Mickey?) RUMSFELD?


No, France sold a nuclear reactor, Germany sold the centrifuges and
tools to make nukes. France and Germany were Saddam's biggest trade
partners and they were the ones that were pushing to lift sanctions on
Iraq. Don't forget the contracts Saddam signed with the French and the
Russians that would take effect once sanctions were ended.

If the French and Germans got their way Saddam's children's prison would
still be full, Saddam would still be filling mass graves, and Saddam
would be writing handsome checks to the French and Germans, not just the
English MPs on his payroll.


Hurray! Some of it's our fault! I thought we were being ignored.

Mike
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M.J.Powell
  #14  
Old October 17th 03, 03:54 PM
tw
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"M. J. Powell" wrote in message
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In message , tscottme
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NEMO ME IMPUNE wrote in message
...
OK, M. Irby try to make us think that France sold Nukes, or tools to

make
them to Sadam. But, who sold them those Anthrax and others biological
weapons? And M Irby is always speaking of M. Chirac. Why he did'nt

adress m.
Donald (or Mickey?) RUMSFELD?


No, France sold a nuclear reactor, Germany sold the centrifuges and
tools to make nukes. France and Germany were Saddam's biggest trade
partners and they were the ones that were pushing to lift sanctions on
Iraq. Don't forget the contracts Saddam signed with the French and the
Russians that would take effect once sanctions were ended.

If the French and Germans got their way Saddam's children's prison would
still be full, Saddam would still be filling mass graves, and Saddam
would be writing handsome checks to the French and Germans, not just the
English MPs on his payroll.


Hurray! Some of it's our fault! I thought we were being ignored.


Didn't George Galloway get cleared of "being on Saddam's payroll"?



  #15  
Old October 17th 03, 04:03 PM
Chad Irby
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In article ,
"NEMO ME IMPUNE" wrote:

OK, M. Irby try to make us think that France sold Nukes, or tools to make
them to Sadam.


Which they certainly did. The OSIRAK reactor. Luckily, the Israelis
stopped that by bombing the building it was going into.

But, who sold them those Anthrax and others biological weapons?


The Type Culture Collection sold some cultures to Iraq in their normal
work of helping medical researchers across the globe creat vaccines.
They've been doing this for about 70 years.

For the Iraq biological and chemical weapons programs, look to Germany
and France who sold them most of their equipment.

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Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.
  #16  
Old October 17th 03, 04:52 PM
John Mullen
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"tw" wrote in message
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"M. J. Powell" wrote in message
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In message , tscottme
writes
NEMO ME IMPUNE wrote in message
...
OK, M. Irby try to make us think that France sold Nukes, or tools to
make
them to Sadam. But, who sold them those Anthrax and others biological
weapons? And M Irby is always speaking of M. Chirac. Why he did'nt
adress m.
Donald (or Mickey?) RUMSFELD?


No, France sold a nuclear reactor, Germany sold the centrifuges and
tools to make nukes. France and Germany were Saddam's biggest trade
partners and they were the ones that were pushing to lift sanctions on
Iraq. Don't forget the contracts Saddam signed with the French and the
Russians that would take effect once sanctions were ended.

If the French and Germans got their way Saddam's children's prison

would
still be full, Saddam would still be filling mass graves, and Saddam
would be writing handsome checks to the French and Germans, not just

the
English MPs on his payroll.


Hurray! Some of it's our fault! I thought we were being ignored.


Didn't George Galloway get cleared of "being on Saddam's payroll"?


And of course he isn't English! Par for the course though...

John


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Old October 17th 03, 04:56 PM
Keith Willshaw
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"tw" wrote in message
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Didn't George Galloway get cleared of "being on Saddam's payroll"?



Not exactly.

While the Christian Science Monitor withdrew its story the
Daily Telegraph is standing by its reporter who claimed to have
found documents detailing his connections with Saddam.

Gorgeous George has now launched an appeal to fund his
libel action, if it ever comes to court it could be rather interesting.

Keith


  #18  
Old October 17th 03, 06:08 PM
Matt Wiser
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Chad Irby wrote:
In article ,
Scott MacEachern wrote:

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:35:27 GMT, Chad Irby

wrote:

So far, quite a lot.

It's a shame they aren't reporting it in

the European papers.

Nor, strangely enough, in the North American

papers.

Well, maybe not in some of them, but many did
mention the actual
contents of the report itself, which *does*
hold quite a lot of damning
evidence. But the quick and clueless headlines
win again...

On the other hand, we have this lead from

an article in the New York
Times for 16 October
(http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/16/in...st/16ARMS.html):
"American officials in Baghdad have identified

at least 30 businesses
and individuals in the United States that

investigators said they
suspect sold tens of millions of dollars in

military technology to
Iraq before the war...." Imagine that: American

firms selling arms to
Saddam Hussein.

I'd suggest that before doing any more France-bashing,

you read that
article.


I'd suggest you do the same. Typical quote:

"Officials said they believed that the two San
Diego businessmen, both
of Iraqi descent, delivered and helped to assemble
three 85-foot-long
patrol boats, armed with machine guns, as part
of an $11 million
contract with Mr. Hussein's military."

"But the American authorities said the Yakous
were aware that their
dealings with Mr. Hussein's government violated
American laws. Indeed,
officials said the two men told investigators
in an interview two
months ago that the embargo forced them to route
their supplies through
Jordan, slowing production."

There's also quite a bit of difference between
companies that sell arms
to Iraq *in spite of* the US government, and
people who sell arms to
Iraq with the *support* of the French government...

Or, like Chirac, sell them nuclear power plants
that are basically
designed to make material for bombs (thank goodness
the Israelis took
that one out).

--
cirby at cfl.rr.com

Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be
hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.

Good thing the Israelis did execute Operation BABYLON in 1981.
There was only one purpose for the Osirak reactor: bomb making. As far as
our French friends selling Iraq stuff up until the war, what the hell were
you guys thinking? The atropine, NBC suits, and other CW gear captured during
the push to Baghdad tells a lot: the Iraqis had WMDs and wanted to protect
their own troops-they knew that the US and Brits had no chem/bio weapons,
so why give their own troops the NBC gear? Explain that.
And add the Russians in as well: where did the Iraqis get AT-15 ATGMs to
disable several M-1s,hmm?
Seems both the French and the Russians have things to hide in covering for
their friend Saddam Insane. And once all the captured documents are examined
and released, seems Paris, Moscow, Berlin, and Beijing are going to be embarassed.
No wonder they didn't want Saddam taken down.

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Old October 17th 03, 06:13 PM
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For the Iraq biological and chemical weapons programs, look to Germany
and France who sold them most of their equipment.


and US not ??? open your eyes

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0802-01.htm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...866942,00.html

http://www.kvinnonet.org/war/WarCriminals3.html

http://www.topos.org/rumsfeld.html

but may be all this inforamtions are false and sure i'm a poor victim of
horrible manipulation.


Franck

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Old October 17th 03, 08:55 PM
John Mullen
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"Franck" wrote in message
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For the Iraq biological and chemical weapons programs, look to Germany
and France who sold them most of their equipment.


and US not ??? open your eyes

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0802-01.htm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...866942,00.html

http://www.kvinnonet.org/war/WarCriminals3.html

http://www.topos.org/rumsfeld.html

but may be all this inforamtions are false and sure i'm a poor victim of
horrible manipulation.


Franck

There really isn't any point in arguing here. This is a guy who believes all
criticism of the USA is tantamount to communist propaganda. He also believes
that the situation in Iraq is currently getting better day by day, and that
anyone who says different is a lefty propagandist. It just isn't worth it.

(OT: I wonder if Rumsfeld himself is aware of just how evil he looks, as a
former Saddam kisser?)

John


 




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