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Old December 3rd 07, 11:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Newps
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Anybody have the link to the FAR that states what the requirements are
for IFR approved GPS's and the database currency for those units.
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Old December 4th 07, 12:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
CareBear
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Maybe AIM 1-1-19.4.f will help.

CareBear

"Newps" wrote in message
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Anybody have the link to the FAR that states what the requirements are for
IFR approved GPS's and the database currency for those units.



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Old December 4th 07, 12:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Clark
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And the GPS unit's AOM or Pilots Guide.

On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 18:03:38 -0600, "CareBear"
wrote:

Maybe AIM 1-1-19.4.f will help.

CareBear

"Newps" wrote in message
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Anybody have the link to the FAR that states what the requirements are for
IFR approved GPS's and the database currency for those units.


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Old December 4th 07, 12:49 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Newps
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I need the FAR or Advisory Circular that covers this. The AIM is
actually the root of the problem. I believe it to be wrong and isn't
the legal basis anyways.



CareBear wrote:

Maybe AIM 1-1-19.4.f will help.

CareBear

"Newps" wrote in message
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Anybody have the link to the FAR that states what the requirements are for
IFR approved GPS's and the database currency for those units.




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Old December 4th 07, 01:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Clark
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My KLN 94 has a POH supplement that states the Pilots Guide is
incorporated by reference. The KLN94 Pilots Guide Part Number
006-18207-0000 page 2-4 states "Note: By FAA regulation, you are
required to have a current navigation database in order to use the KLN
94 for a non-precision approach."

Since the POH is required to be adhered to, and the Pilot's Guide is
incorporated by reference, it would seem to be the legal basis
mandataing a current database for any non-ILS approach with that unit.

It would have been nice of them to footnote what FAA regulation
they're referring to when they say that one requires a current
navigation database. Perhaps emailing Bendix/King and enquiring would
get them to send you the reference?

On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:49:41 -0700, Newps wrote:

I need the FAR or Advisory Circular that covers this. The AIM is
actually the root of the problem. I believe it to be wrong and isn't
the legal basis anyways.



CareBear wrote:

Maybe AIM 1-1-19.4.f will help.

CareBear

"Newps" wrote in message
. ..

Anybody have the link to the FAR that states what the requirements are for
IFR approved GPS's and the database currency for those units.




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Old December 4th 07, 01:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Newps wrote in
:

Anybody have the link to the FAR that states what the requirements are
for IFR approved GPS's and the database currency for those units.


Our's come with expiry dates on the database renewals themselves. When you
are within those dates, you're legal and hopefully safe, if you've read the
notams, of course.


Bertie
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Old December 4th 07, 04:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Newps
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Peter Clark wrote:

My KLN 94 has a POH supplement that states the Pilots Guide is
incorporated by reference. The KLN94 Pilots Guide Part Number
006-18207-0000 page 2-4 states "Note: By FAA regulation, you are
required to have a current navigation database in order to use the KLN
94 for a non-precision approach."



OK there's no argument on that point. The difference we are having is a
terminal/enroute box that you don't shoot approaches with, such as the
GX55 in my plane. It can legally substitute for ADF/DME but some folks
are saying that the database is required to be current. My box is one
that says the user must verify waypoints if the database is expired.


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Old December 4th 07, 04:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
BT
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AC90-100a Para 10.a.3
(3) The onboard navigation data must be current and appropriate for the
region of intended operation and must include the navigation aids,
waypoints, and relevant coded terminal airspace procedures for the
departure, arrival, and alternate airfields. RNAV STAR procedures may be
designed using multiple runway transitions. Operators not having this
functionality shall provide an acceptable alternative means (for example, a
tailored navigation data base). If no equivalent means are available to fly
the charted RNAV procedure containing multiple runway transitions, operators
will not file or accept clearance for these procedures.


"Newps" wrote in message
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Anybody have the link to the FAR that states what the requirements are for
IFR approved GPS's and the database currency for those units.



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Old December 4th 07, 04:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
BT
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AC90-100a Para 10.a.3
(3) The onboard navigation data must be current and appropriate for the
region of intended operation and must include the navigation aids,
waypoints, and relevant coded terminal airspace procedures for the
departure, arrival, and alternate airfields. RNAV STAR procedures may be
designed using multiple runway transitions. Operators not having this
functionality shall provide an acceptable alternative means (for example, a
tailored navigation data base). If no equivalent means are available to fly
the charted RNAV procedure containing multiple runway transitions, operators
will not file or accept clearance for these procedures.


"Newps" wrote in message
. ..
Anybody have the link to the FAR that states what the requirements are for
IFR approved GPS's and the database currency for those units.



  #10  
Old December 4th 07, 04:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
BT
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AC90-100a Para 10.a.3
(3) The onboard navigation data must be current and appropriate for the
region of intended operation and must include the navigation aids,
waypoints, and relevant coded terminal airspace procedures for the
departure, arrival, and alternate airfields. RNAV STAR procedures may be
designed using multiple runway transitions. Operators not having this
functionality shall provide an acceptable alternative means (for example, a
tailored navigation data base). If no equivalent means are available to fly
the charted RNAV procedure containing multiple runway transitions, operators
will not file or accept clearance for these procedures.


"Newps" wrote in message
. ..
Anybody have the link to the FAR that states what the requirements are for
IFR approved GPS's and the database currency for those units.



 




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