Sims

On Dec 14, 8:10 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
news.verizon.net writes:
No your basis for judgment is not as valid as anyone else's. You have no
direct knowledge of one of the points of comparison, there for your judgment
is without basis.

As I've said, learning that all opinions are equal takes time. Some learn the
easy way, and some learn the hard way.

I've been reading your posts, and the thread. I have flown sim but
also fly "real gliders and real planes". I have to say, you are
kidding yourself if you think flying a sim is flying. There is a
world of difference between sitting in a chair in front of a computer
and taking off of terra firma. I don't understand your POV or why you
feel that you need to convince pilots that you are correct. Anyone
that flies knows you haven't a clue regarding this. Post away in the
sim forums, but please don't post like an expert here no matter how
many hours you have holding your joystick!!!

Doug

"gatt" wrote in
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"Kyle Boatright" wrote in message
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"LWG" wrote in message
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I got vectored around pretty much the same as when I
fly under the hood. I thought that was absolutely fantastic, and all
for about a nickel's worth of electricity. No instructor or safety
pilot needed.

Yep, but it wasn't flying, which is the whole point, right?

It can make the actual flying/instructing time a bit more productive.

I'm taking LWG's position on this because, just like a "real"
simulator, it's useful to be able to simply back up and do an approach
again, or try an approach with an instrument failure or things you
wouldn't want to spend $100/hr practicing. It's not going to replace
actual flight time, but I found it helpful in practicing the ability
to cross-reference instruments in "IMC" (sort of like the instrument
examples in the Instrument written exam.)

Useful for learning the instrument panel and practicing navigation
without outside reference. Definately a secondary or tertiary
source; it could replace neither practical experience or instruction
but you can learn to use an ADF, VORs or the Garmin GPS with it.


There, you've said it..

ADF's are the one thing i've found them fairly useful for, specially if
I haven't done one in a while.


Still, it's not the same...

Bertie

gliderguynj writes:

I've been reading your posts, and the thread. I have flown sim but
also fly "real gliders and real planes". I have to say, you are
kidding yourself if you think flying a sim is flying.

It's not flying a real plane, but it's still flying in a sense. I find it
enjoyable.

There is a world of difference between sitting in a chair in front of a computer
and taking off of terra firma.

Yes. Sometimes those differences favor real flight, sometimes they favor
simulation.

I don't understand your POV or why you feel that you need to convince
pilots that you are correct.

Understanding other points of view is a very useful skill to develop.

I don't feel I need to convince pilots of anything, but I do think they need
to be less convinced of some unique validity of their own opinions.

gatt writes:

Some people might argue that internet porn is better than real sex. It's
a matter of "opinion."

Yes. Good!

Were they to acknowledge that they'd never actually -had- sex, though...
let's just say you don't get dates by saying you've only had sex with your
computer and that for some people it's superior to the real thing.

If someone is happy with Internet porn, why would he look for real dates?

gatt writes:

Microsoft Flight Simulator will never replace actual flight instruction and
produce a safe pilot.

That doesn't matter, if the objective is not to become a pilot. And MSFS
remains useful as one tool among many for those who wish to become pilots, or
who already are.

In that case you are in the wrong group, so do us all a favor and get the
hell out.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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gatt writes:

Microsoft Flight Simulator will never replace actual flight instruction
and
produce a safe pilot.

That doesn't matter, if the objective is not to become a pilot. And MSFS
remains useful as one tool among many for those who wish to become pilots,
or
who already are.

Probably because he is a fat, ugly, argumentative moron who sits in a dark
room in a foreign country fiddling with himself. Just as a random guess you
understand.....

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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gatt writes:

Some people might argue that internet porn is better than real sex.
It's
a matter of "opinion."

Yes. Good!

Were they to acknowledge that they'd never actually -had- sex, though...
let's just say you don't get dates by saying you've only had sex with
your
computer and that for some people it's superior to the real thing.

If someone is happy with Internet porn, why would he look for real dates?

Barney Rubble writes:

Probably because he is a fat, ugly, argumentative moron who sits in a dark
room in a foreign country fiddling with himself.

I don't see why that would make him more likely to look for dates.

Just as a random guess you understand.....

Yes, that's what I understood. I'm not sure how it contributes to the
discussion.

Barney Rubble writes:

In that case you are in the wrong group, so do us all a favor and get the
hell out.

No.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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gliderguynj writes:

I've been reading your posts, and the thread. I have flown sim but
also fly "real gliders and real planes". I have to say, you are
kidding yourself if you think flying a sim is flying.

It's not flying a real plane, but it's still flying in a sense.


No, it isn't


Bertie