B747 Loses All 4 Generators Due To Clogged Sink In 1st Class Galley

On Jan 11, 12:27*pm, Clark wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder wrote :





Larry Dighera wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:35:04 -0600, Gig 601XL Builder
wrote in
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Larry Dighera wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:11:35 -0600, Gig 601XL Builder
wrote in
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You really ought to know that there isn't a mainstream news server on
the planet that still accepts cancel commands.
You ought to know that AT&T Worldnet honors cancel commands. *Given
that they were the backbone for arpanet/usenet in the '80s, I'd
characterize them as mainstream.

You have a cite for that? Because if it is true I can set up a script
that will do a lot of good for the rec.aviation community.

In addition to being ineffective on nntp servers that do not honor
cancels,

of course it is ineffective you git. That's the whole ****ing point.

Isn't it nice how Larry can argue both sides in separate posts? Maybe he and
Steven should spend some quality time together...

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Uh oh.. here comes the "Mc Nicol effect" Quick, beam me up
scotty.. :)..

"F. Baum" wrote in news:4bc77f89-cafe-42e7-bbee-
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On Jan 10, 2:37*pm, Larry Dighera wrote:
Fortunately the flight wasn't mid-Pacific when this occurred:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/travel/cr...08/11995546542...
* * Crash threat

* * January 9, 2008

* * A Qantas 747 with 344 passengers on board could have faced
* * catastrophe after losing power from all four of its generators on
* * its descent into Bangkok on Monday.

Lar, This story doesnt make a whole lotta sense and seems a bit too
dramatic ("Could have faced catasophe"?). I wouldnt believe everything
on Avweb.

Reporters...

I farted in the kitchen today. I could have faced catastrophe.

Gig 601XL Builder wrote in
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Now for the guys with "Heavy" experience. Does the 747 really only
have enough onboard battery power to last a little over an hour for
the flight deck?

That's already quite a while. How much battery power would you
expect? The aircraft is designed so that it should never have to get
by on battery power alone.

Well Mr. Aviation, the little 1320# plane I'm building should be able
to run without the alternator charging the battery for about 1.5
hours.


You need a battery to make the engine run?


Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Now for the guys with "Heavy" experience. Does the 747 really only have
enough onboard battery power to last a little over an hour for the
flight deck?

That's already quite a while. How much battery power would you expect? The
aircraft is designed so that it should never have to get by on battery power
alone.

Well Mr. Aviation, the little 1320# plane I'm building should be able to
run without the alternator charging the battery for about 1.5 hours.

Michael Huber wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

Well looking at Larry's message that he says he sent a cancel message
and the follow up message I think the difference was 4 minutes.

FWIW, I did not see Larry's original message, though I have no way of
telling whether the cancel was honored by T-Online or a server further
upstream.

What was the content, subject or msg-id of the test message you sent and
cancelled? I am not seeing an obvious "test, I will cancel this" message
from you.



I didn't make another message and cancel it. I canceled the message that
was my reply to Larry's original message.

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder wrote in
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Now for the guys with "Heavy" experience. Does the 747 really only
have enough onboard battery power to last a little over an hour for
the flight deck?
That's already quite a while. How much battery power would you
expect? The aircraft is designed so that it should never have to get
by on battery power alone.
Well Mr. Aviation, the little 1320# plane I'm building should be able
to run without the alternator charging the battery for about 1.5
hours.


You need a battery to make the engine run?


Bertie


Yep. No Mags

Gig 601XL Builder wrote in news:13on0s0226urne1
@news.supernews.com:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder wrote in
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Now for the guys with "Heavy" experience. Does the 747 really only
have enough onboard battery power to last a little over an hour for
the flight deck?
That's already quite a while. How much battery power would you
expect? The aircraft is designed so that it should never have to get
by on battery power alone.
Well Mr. Aviation, the little 1320# plane I'm building should be able
to run without the alternator charging the battery for about 1.5
hours.


You need a battery to make the engine run?


Bertie


Yep. No Mags


Yipes! Braver man than me. A friend is just finishing a Sonerai. It has a
mag and electronic ignition. Bertie like.


Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Yipes! Braver man than me. A friend is just finishing a Sonerai. It has a
mag and electronic ignition. Bertie like.


Bertie

The Corvair conversion uses single plug per cylinder and dual and
separate ignition system. Originally it was two points based ignitions
now it is one electronic and one points.

If you're interested look at http://www.flycorvair.com/

Gig 601XL Builder wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Yipes! Braver man than me. A friend is just finishing a Sonerai. It
has a mag and electronic ignition. Bertie like.


Bertie

The Corvair conversion uses single plug per cylinder and dual and
separate ignition system. Originally it was two points based ignitions
now it is one electronic and one points.

If you're interested look at http://www.flycorvair.com/


Ah, OK, I've seen your site a few times. I helped a friend build a corvair
powered Piet a looong time ago. He eventaully did finish it BTW.
He had a bunch of Corvairs for a while. his daily drive was a beat up old
1961 Monza. It did go! We found an abandoned blower engined one and pulled
the engine out of it, planning to put it on the airplane, bu tit would up
on the Monza. I remember the bearings for the blower cost more than all the
other parts for the rebuild combined. I even raced it once. He was under
age and I wasnt when we showed up ( timed event) so I got to drive. It was
quick though it was still a four carb engine then! Weird oversteer...
AFAIK he flew the Piet with a two carb setup and it went well, but I never
got to see it flying..
nice little engine. I would have thought it was too heavy for your airplane
though?


Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Yipes! Braver man than me. A friend is just finishing a Sonerai. It
has a mag and electronic ignition. Bertie like.


Bertie
The Corvair conversion uses single plug per cylinder and dual and
separate ignition system. Originally it was two points based ignitions
now it is one electronic and one points.

If you're interested look at http://www.flycorvair.com/


Ah, OK, I've seen your site a few times. I helped a friend build a corvair
powered Piet a looong time ago. He eventaully did finish it BTW.
He had a bunch of Corvairs for a while. his daily drive was a beat up old
1961 Monza. It did go! We found an abandoned blower engined one and pulled
the engine out of it, planning to put it on the airplane, bu tit would up
on the Monza. I remember the bearings for the blower cost more than all the
other parts for the rebuild combined. I even raced it once. He was under
age and I wasnt when we showed up ( timed event) so I got to drive. It was
quick though it was still a four carb engine then! Weird oversteer...
AFAIK he flew the Piet with a two carb setup and it went well, but I never
got to see it flying..
nice little engine. I would have thought it was too heavy for your airplane
though?


Bertie

As far as weight goes it is just about the same installed weight as an
O-200 (which is what the factory built LSA 601XL uses)and that six
cylinder runs like an electric motor compared to a Lyc or Cont. 4 cylinder.

William Wynne has come up with some modifications since the Piets used
the engine that have reduced weight somewhat. For one at least some of
the Peits kept the factory colling fan. It's not there in the 601XL install.