40,000 Plus Hits. Thank you all.

"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message
...
To Art:

Congratulations on a very successful site that has given a lot of
folks a lot of insight regarding what flying and fighting in the "big
one" was about.

To Art, Dudley, Vlad, Mike, Gordon, and the others who have gone far
afield to the detriment of meaningful dialogue in RAM:

Give it a rest guys. Take a deep breath, swallow some pride and
refrain from responding. We'll all be better for it.

My wife has "consulted" with me on this, and she has told me in no uncertain
terms that Ed's right and I should shut up along with the rest of you. Her
only caveat (wives ALWAYS have a caveat) is that she could have told all of
us this before Ed did, which confirms everything is normal around HERE
anyway. :-)
The only remaining question I would have to close this over worked issue
would simply be to comment that I hope Tex Houston is in good health, as I
can't imagine how RAM got through this entire thread without him giving us
all holy hell:-))
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
For personal email, please replace
the z's with e's.
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Subject: 40,000 Plus Hits. Thank you all.
From: "Dudley Henriques"
Date: 11/2/03 1:52 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

The only remaining question I would have to close this over worked issue
would simply be to comment that I hope Tex Houston is in good health, as I
can't imagine how RAM got through this entire thread without him giving us
all holy hell:-))

Tex, being a flier is above it all. (grin duck and run) Now we even for that
Ocaams Razor and very simple casket gag you hit me with.

Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
...
Subject: 40,000 Plus Hits. Thank you all.
From: "Dudley Henriques"
Date: 11/2/03 1:52 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

The only remaining question I would have to close this over worked issue
would simply be to comment that I hope Tex Houston is in good health, as
I
can't imagine how RAM got through this entire thread without him giving
us
all holy hell:-))

Tex, being a flier is above it all. (grin duck and run) Now we even for
that
Ocaams Razor and very simple casket gag you hit me with.

Or you could say that as a flier he has his "ups" and "downs" :-))))

Dudley

Subject: 40,000 Plus Hits. Thank you all.
From: "Dudley Henriques"
Date: 11/2/03 3:13 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: . net


"ArtKramr" wrote in message
...
Subject: 40,000 Plus Hits. Thank you all.
From: "Dudley Henriques"
Date: 11/2/03 1:52 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

The only remaining question I would have to close this over worked issue
would simply be to comment that I hope Tex Houston is in good health, as
I
can't imagine how RAM got through this entire thread without him giving
us
all holy hell:-))

Tex, being a flier is above it all. (grin duck and run) Now we even for
that
Ocaams Razor and very simple casket gag you hit me with.

Or you could say that as a flier he has his "ups" and "downs" :-))))

Dudley




Aaaargh ! I'll get you for this (s)
..
Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

Mary Shafer wrote:

We were flying tricycle Rogallo wings in the '60s, so I don't see
what's so special about them. It certainly wasn't a big deal, like
flying the X-15 or lifting bodies, although the same guy flew all
three.


Hey Mary. I built a Rogallo "Bat Glider" of bamboo and black plastic (with a
lot of strapping tape) in about '68. Ran off a hill side and smashed into a
tree :-)

I still have a picture of the "debris field" somewhere. There was a reporter
near by who took a shot and ran a piece in the paper about "Man with Wings".
What a hoot. Does this make me a hang gliding pioneer or do I need controlled
flight? Actually it was controlled in the sense it controlled me by simply
turning left no matter what!

-- Charlie Springer

wrote:Hey Mary. I built a Rogallo "Bat Glider" of bamboo
and black plastic (with a
lot of strapping tape) in about '68. Ran off a hill side and smashed into a
tree :-)


We did the same thing in '69, but we used duct-tape.........we were funded a
bit more (my buddy had a job)!!
VL

Ed Rasimus wrote:

To Art:

Congratulations on a very successful site that has given a lot of
folks a lot of insight regarding what flying and fighting in the "big
one" was about.

I agree, Ed. I've visited Art's website several times, read most of
his short stories and viewed the pictures. I have no problem
whatsoever with his fine website. It was his bizarre and gratuitous
posting and flaming others ANONYMOUSLY on this forum via
his bogus "Autocollimator" alter ego that I find extremely
objectionable.....

Art's first post in this thread:

"My website just passed the 40,000 hit mark. more than
I ever dreamt possible, athough Bob McKellar knew it all
along. I never thought there was so much interest in that
war so long gone and behind us. Thank you all for your
constant repeat visits and warm, encouraging E-Mails that
come on a daily basis from all over the world.. Makes this
old Bombardier feel good all over."

Then, Art ducked into a nearby phone booth and dons his
"Autocollimator"costume and posts a self-aggrandizing,
disgustingly arrogant followup note to HIMSELF:

"Your stuff is the most interesting on this NG. You can't beat
being there no matter what. I look for your posts every time
I log on. Keep 'em flying."

It was at that point when I had enough and finally objected:

"Since it's Halloween and all, just curious Art if you will you be
removing your "Autocollimator" mask after tonight? You're not
fooling anyone here but your own silly self, ya' know."

And, of course, the rest is history....

To Art, Dudley, Vlad, Mike, Gordon, and the others who have gone far
afield to the detriment of meaningful dialogue in RAM:

Give it a rest guys. Take a deep breath, swallow some pride and
refrain from responding. We'll all be better for it.

I was going to respond to Dudley's personal attacks, but as you will
note I have not. It is simply beyond my comprehension how a bunch
of grown men are so eager to excuse Art's incredibly childish
behavior. Wanna talk about "arrested development?" Most children
grow out of their "imaginary playmate" phase long before they even
reach puberty, but evidently not Kramer! If I hadn't exposed him, he
would STILL be having his little "make believe" conversations with his
"Autocollimator" imaginary "friend."

I'm not sure what's more pathetic, "Big Bad Brave Been There Done
That Bombadier Art" playing make believe games while pretending
to be "Autocollimator," or his RAM buddys who would desperately like
to excuse and rationalize away his unexcusable behavior as if it never
happened. Alas, but unfortunately it did happen and as far as I'm
concerned, Kramer and those who have chosen to defend his
reprehensible actions have lost all credibility and respect in my
eyes. And I'm certain in the knowledge that I'm not alone, but after
witnessing the crazed, mob-like attacking-the-messenger behavior
that ensued after I exposed Kramer as "Autocollimator," there ain't
a snowball's chance in hell any one of them will publically admit it.

Let's step back and think about what Kramer did for a moment, Ed.
Can you picture any one of your fellow River Rat's logging onto RAM
under an alias such as "Autocollimator" and then proceeding to stroke
thier own egos like in the example I provided above?

Can you even imagine Gen. Olds pretending to be "Autocollimator?"
Dunno about you, but I damn sure can't! How about Wimpy Peake, or
Karl Richter? Can you see envision either of them pretending to be
an "Autocollimator?" For that matter, can you picture Kramer's
comrades who made the ultimate sacrifice in the "Big One" pretending
to be "Autocollimators" on rec aviation military? Again, I certainly
cannot, however, I CAN envision those brave warriors whose read
Art's flaming of others and boasting on himself while hiding behind
his "Autocollimator" alias spinning in their graves right about now.
Talk about demeaning the whole warrior ethic!

On 03 Nov 2003 13:52:05 GMT, (MLenoch) wrote:

wrote:Hey Mary. I built a Rogallo "Bat Glider" of bamboo
and black plastic (with a
lot of strapping tape) in about '68. Ran off a hill side and smashed into a
tree :-)

We did the same thing in '69, but we used duct-tape.........we were funded a
bit more (my buddy had a job)!!

But did you have a Pontiac convertible, modified in Mickey Thompson's
speed shop, to get you into the air? Or a 1943 R4D Gooneybird?

Fortunately there are no trees on the lakebed, but there's a really
funny film clip of the vehicle bouncing around on one or two wheels
until it tips over and the pilot (Milt, naturally) can't reach the
ground or anything and is stuck there until the support crew shows up.

Frank Rogallo was a Langley guy, by the way. This was an all-NASA
effort.

Mary

--
Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer

Mary Shafer
wrote:But did you have a Pontiac convertible, modified in Mickey Thompson's
speed shop, to get you into the air? Or a 1943 R4D Gooneybird?

No, sorry. Just the quarry at West Lafayette. We ate a lot of scrub
bushes......greens are good for the diet.
VL

Ed Rasimus wrote in message . ..
Give it a rest guys. Take a deep breath, swallow some pride and
refrain from responding. We'll all be better for it.

"When Good Sense Rolled"
by Ed Rasimus. :-)

Well said...