Flying camels

Hi , I was wondering about the costs of flying camels into the Middle
East from Australia

I was wondering if it may be possible to set up a weekly flight with
several hundred live camels , av 500 kg each, standing 3 meters
tall , , from outback Australia , into Egypt , Pakistan . or such
countries

Im not yet concerned with the legal requirements , but was wondering
if large second hand planes , could be practicle cost wise

At what level it may become profitable , assuming camels weigh 500
kg , and have a relatively low value , could it be profitable if
larger numbers and cheaper planes were taken into account , on a
regular basic

I know horses can be fly around the globe , so welfare of the Animals
should be no problem

Hundreds of camels every week are potentially available in central
Australia , with airstrips , and a market does exist in several
countries , for quality young camels , Australian camels are
considered disease free by most countries , and in particular for use
in emergency where roads have been cut by natural disasters I see a
potential to land hundreds of live camels on short notice as a
possible opportunity as well , with considerable benefit to all
concerned

The costing of a permanent weekly flight is beyond my expertise , and
yes I will need to do my own checking in greater detail , but do you
have any ideas ???

Can you " guesstimate" what it may cost , so I can work out if the
market is able to make it pay ,

I assume we would be using non commercial air strips into semi rural
air strips once it was set up so costs may be saved on landing charges

Camels would take time to muster but assume we could deliver as many
as 500 per week for the purpose of costing air transport , loading
and unloading in an hour

kanga
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"kangarooistan /peramangk" wrote in news:b882277d-
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Hi , I was wondering about the costs of flying camels into the Middle
East from Australia

Well, a 130 hp Clerget drinks about 7 GPH but it will happily run on mogas,
so that's cheap enough. The Castor oil it uses will cost you a bit, of
course. Gonna be a long trip at 100 knots, though.
Bertie

kangarooistan /peramangk wrote:
Hi , I was wondering about the costs of flying camels into the Middle
East from Australia


It would be cheaper to fit them all with coconut necklaces and float
them across the Indian Ocean. Mount a couple of solar panels on the
humps wired to a small electric motor powering a hand mixer ($1.99 at
Walmart) and they become "self propelled". Trick is to keep them
pointed in the right direction. Launch five hundred a week and the
first "batch" should get there by Easter next year. From then, expect
regular "landings". Set up a small stand on the beach and and sell 'em
"hot" from the water (lemonade on the side of course). ;-)

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:26:00 -0700 (PDT), "kangarooistan /peramangk"
wrote in
:

I was wondering about the costs of flying camels into the Middle
East from Australia

Cut a deal with Exxon, and ship your camels to the mid-east on the
decks of empty oil tankers returning there. :-)

On Apr 25, 8:26*pm, "kangarooistan /peramangk"
wrote:
Hi *, I was wondering about the costs of flying camels into the Middle
East *from Australia


Ask FedEx for a quote. You don't need 2nd day air as camels can last a
long time without food or water.

Cheers

On Apr 25, 7:59 pm, Larry Dighera wrote:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:26:00 -0700 (PDT), "kangarooistan /peramangk"
wrote in
:

I was wondering about the costs of flying camels into the Middle
East from Australia

..
Cut a deal with Exxon, and ship your camels to the mid-east on the
decks of empty oil tankers returning there. :-)

Great idea , I thought about that

BUT , it then leaves me waiting on their time tables , sea transport
would be cheaper , but I seek to put 100 to 200 camels any where on
earth in 24 / 48 hours , like in a fire famine flood or earth quake
disaster , as well as serve a regular live meat market as bread and
butter trade

Sea transport is held tightly by existing operators and I want to land
the camels inland where needed and save transport and bribery at
ports

It can take months to go by sea and that costs money too , big money ,
possibly more that air transport done " inhouse " or by a small
operator

the live trade is pretty much a closed shop between existing
operators , some of whom class camels as , " unclean "

kanga
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On Apr 26, 1:16*am, "kangarooistan /peramangk"
wrote:


the live trade is pretty much a closed shop between *existing
operators , some of whom class camels as , " unclean "



Yep, smokin camels is a filthy habit.

Cheers

On Apr 25, 8:14 pm, WingFlaps wrote:
On Apr 25, 8:26 pm, "kangarooistan /peramangk"
wrote:

Hi , I was wondering about the costs of flying camels into the Middle
East from Australia

..
Ask FedEx for a quote. You don't need 2nd day air as camels can last a
long time without food or water.

Cheers



Camels could go a day without food and water , but after that you
would run into problems with animal rights / welfare

I assume we could arrange delivery within 24 hours or feed and rest
them on route if needed

Camels can survive weeks without fod and water , but its not a
desirable outcome to plan for any longer than a day

kanga
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On Apr 25, 6:46 pm, Frank Olson
wrote:
kangarooistan /peramangk wrote:
Hi , I was wondering about the costs of flying camels into the Middle
East from Australia

..
It would be cheaper to fit them all with coconut necklaces and float
them across the Indian Ocean. Mount a couple of solar panels on the
humps wired to a small electric motor powering a hand mixer ($1.99 at
Walmart) and they become "self propelled". Trick is to keep them
pointed in the right direction. Launch five hundred a week and the
first "batch" should get there by Easter next year. From then, expect
regular "landings". Set up a small stand on the beach and and sell 'em
"hot" from the water (lemonade on the side of course). ;-)



Not as silly as it sounds , I used a solar powered back pack and model
plane remote controls to control camels from many km away with no
problems at all , off the shelf at any hobby store, to direct a camel
in a 100 sq mile paddock, im working on a video option camera

Im working on a solar powered camel and remote control to go from
Darwin to Adelaide without a human in sight

I bet you could launch a solar powered floating camel and guild it to
Saudi Arabia from Australia , like an all terrain vehicle , land mud
sea , camels can swim real well , but would need a rest and
flotation devises

but clearly the costs are prohibitive

kanga
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On Apr 26, 1:21*am, "kangarooistan /peramangk"
wrote:
On Apr 25, 8:14 pm, WingFlaps wrote:

On Apr 25, 8:26 pm, "kangarooistan /peramangk"
wrote:

Hi *, I was wondering about the costs of flying camels into the Middle
East *from Australia

.
Ask FedEx for a quote. You don't need 2nd day air as camels can last a
long time without food or water.

Cheers

Camels could go a day without food and water , but after that you
would run into problems with animal rights */ welfare


I though you were planning on killing them? How do they feel about
that?

Cheers