BFR?

Intuitively and without looking at the regs (in other words, a blind
guess):

A new rating in another class/category requires the issuance of a new
certificate and presumes instruction to a specific level of competence and
examination to demonstrate that, so no BFR is required. This is a new
beginning.

The BFR is a formalized procedure requiring both flight and ground
instruction. A Self Launch endorsement does not rise to the level of
either of the above, so it would not count.


At 14:37 10 June 2008, jb92563 wrote:
Here is another spin on the BFR question:

If I get a Self Launch endorsement in my log book for my glider
rating, is that
considered a flight review for the purposes of the BFR requirements?

In other words can I substitute a Self Launch Endorsement for a
regular BFR?

Ray

At the discretion of the instructor, the flight and ground instruction
could count toward the Flight Review. However, sperate sign off
entries would need to be made in your log book.


On Jun 10, 11:43*am, Nyal Williams wrote:
Intuitively and without looking at the regs (in other words, a blind
guess): *

A new rating in another class/category requires the issuance of a new
certificate and presumes instruction to a specific level of competence and
examination to demonstrate that, so no BFR is required. *This is a new
beginning.

The BFR is a formalized procedure requiring both flight and ground
instruction. *A Self Launch endorsement does not rise to the level of
either of the above, so it would not count.

At 14:37 10 June 2008, jb92563 wrote:



Here is another spin on the BFR question:

If I get a Self Launch endorsement in my log book for my glider
rating, is that
considered a flight review for the purposes of the BFR requirements?

In other words can I substitute a Self Launch Endorsement for a
regular BFR?

Ray- Hide quoted text -

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Absolutely; can be a part of it.

At 17:55 10 June 2008, cfinn wrote:
At the discretion of the instructor, the flight and ground instruction
could count toward the Flight Review. However, sperate sign off
entries would need to be made in your log book.


On Jun 10, 11:43=A0am, Nyal Williams wrote:
Intuitively and without looking at the regs (in other words, a blind
guess): =A0

A new rating in another class/category requires the issuance of a new
certificate and presumes instruction to a specific level of competence
and=

examination to demonstrate that, so no BFR is required. =A0This is a
new
beginning.

The BFR is a formalized procedure requiring both flight and ground
instruction. =A0A Self Launch endorsement does not rise to the level
of
either of the above, so it would not count.

At 14:37 10 June 2008, jb92563 wrote:



Here is another spin on the BFR question:

If I get a Self Launch endorsement in my log book for my glider
rating, is that
considered a flight review for the purposes of the BFR requirements?

In other words can I substitute a Self Launch Endorsement for a
regular BFR?

Ray- Hide quoted text -

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only if the instructor signing off the endorsement also adds the words
flight review IAF 61.56
B
"jb92563" wrote in message
...
Here is another spin on the BFR question:

If I get a Self Launch endorsement in my log book for my glider
rating, is that
considered a flight review for the purposes of the BFR requirements?

In other words can I substitute a Self Launch Endorsement for a
regular BFR?

Ray

a new rating is not required in the US for a new launch method of a glider
of which there are 3 types.
that used to be the case but the rules were changed years ago.

B

"Nyal Williams" wrote in message
...
Intuitively and without looking at the regs (in other words, a blind
guess):

A new rating in another class/category requires the issuance of a new
certificate and presumes instruction to a specific level of competence and
examination to demonstrate that, so no BFR is required. This is a new
beginning.

The BFR is a formalized procedure requiring both flight and ground
instruction. A Self Launch endorsement does not rise to the level of
either of the above, so it would not count.


At 14:37 10 June 2008, jb92563 wrote:
Here is another spin on the BFR question:

If I get a Self Launch endorsement in my log book for my glider
rating, is that
considered a flight review for the purposes of the BFR requirements?

In other words can I substitute a Self Launch Endorsement for a
regular BFR?

Ray

Nyal Williams wrote:
Absolutely; can be a part of it.


Right, *can* be, but *is* not.

Tony V. CFIG


At 17:55 10 June 2008, cfinn wrote:
At the discretion of the instructor, the flight and ground instruction
could count toward the Flight Review. However, sperate sign off
entries would need to be made in your log book.

To be absolutely clear, NO. The self launch endorsement is not by itself
a BFR. At his discretion the instructor who gives you this endorsement
can make it a part of a BFR, but the BFR must included other things as
well.

At 22:56 10 June 2008, BT wrote:
only if the instructor signing off the endorsement also adds the words
flight review IAF 61.56
B
"jb92563" wrote in message
...
Here is another spin on the BFR question:

If I get a Self Launch endorsement in my log book for my glider
rating, is that
considered a flight review for the purposes of the BFR requirements?

In other words can I substitute a Self Launch Endorsement for a
regular BFR?

Ray

yes.. Nylan.. agreed...
I miss read and then re read your previous post and realized that was the
intent of your post.

BT

"Nyal Williams" wrote in message
...
To be absolutely clear, NO. The self launch endorsement is not by itself
a BFR. At his discretion the instructor who gives you this endorsement
can make it a part of a BFR, but the BFR must included other things as
well.

At 22:56 10 June 2008, BT wrote:
only if the instructor signing off the endorsement also adds the words
flight review IAF 61.56
B
"jb92563" wrote in message
...
Here is another spin on the BFR question:

If I get a Self Launch endorsement in my log book for my glider
rating, is that
considered a flight review for the purposes of the BFR requirements?

In other words can I substitute a Self Launch Endorsement for a
regular BFR?

Ray