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Hi all,
I've seen a lot of interesting discussion on this group improving skills and safety, so I thought I'd ask this he I'm currently training for my private pilot glider ticket, starting from zero. I have about 12hrs in my logbook over 43 flights, about a third of which are solo. I did initial training in a 2-33 and my instructor recently checked me out in the 1-26, which I'm loving. I have a great instructor, insofar as I'm capable of judging such things, and I'm not worried about passing the practical, but here's the question: Beyond reading the Knauff books and seeking continuing instruction, what recommendations does the group have for continuing to improve skills and be better, safer pilot after I pass the practical? I'm almost certainly going to continue training, start learning what I need to know to fly XC, and work on the SSA badges. I've seen what looks like some good advice in some recent threads, and I'm certainly looking for more. I know my CFIG is the first and best point of contact for all these things, but I'm always in favor of getting more information when possible. So what are the things you wish you'd known at this point in your soaring career? Also, I've searched for the Knauff books on Amazon, and they appear to be out of print. Is this correct? If so, is my best bet to purchase them through Amazon used, or are there other vendors that are preferred? |
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Ryan,
Why not buy them from Knauff himself and provide support to him instead of a bunch of middlemen? http://www.eglider.org/ Of course, there are some very good middlemen on here, such as Paul Remde at http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/, or Tim Mara at http://www.wingsandwheels.com/ I'd bet that either of those have them all, as well. Good luck, Ed Ryan Spicer wrote: Hi all, I've seen a lot of interesting discussion on this group improving skills and safety, so I thought I'd ask this he I'm currently training for my private pilot glider ticket, starting from zero. I have about 12hrs in my logbook over 43 flights, about a third of which are solo. I did initial training in a 2-33 and my instructor recently checked me out in the 1-26, which I'm loving. I have a great instructor, insofar as I'm capable of judging such things, and I'm not worried about passing the practical, but here's the question: Beyond reading the Knauff books and seeking continuing instruction, what recommendations does the group have for continuing to improve skills and be better, safer pilot after I pass the practical? I'm almost certainly going to continue training, start learning what I need to know to fly XC, and work on the SSA badges. I've seen what looks like some good advice in some recent threads, and I'm certainly looking for more. I know my CFIG is the first and best point of contact for all these things, but I'm always in favor of getting more information when possible. So what are the things you wish you'd known at this point in your soaring career? Also, I've searched for the Knauff books on Amazon, and they appear to be out of print. Is this correct? If so, is my best bet to purchase them through Amazon used, or are there other vendors that are preferred? |
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On Jun 30, 11:52*am, Ryan Spicer wrote:
Hi all, snip Beyond reading the Knauff books and seeking continuing instruction, what recommendations does the group have for continuing to improve skills and be better, safer pilot after I pass the practical? snip My advice is to fly often (weekly) so you remain not only current, but proficient. Sorry if it sounds too logical but it works for me. /Adam |
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Ryan -
Along with what the others have said (flying regularly and buying Knauff's books), I encourage you to check out different authors and different sources of gliding knowledge. There are many books by good authors (inlcuding Reichmann, Wander, and others) that are excellent, and its always good to get different perspectives on flying technique. Hanging out around glider operations (even if you aren't flying) is a good idea. Wing-run and check out various takeoff techniques. Note what seems to work and what things tend to get people in trouble. Hang out with the pilots in your club that go cross-country. They'll have lots of experience, and even if they aren't good teachers you will learn some things just by osmosis. Never stop asking questions, and never stop trying to think ahead to "what can I work on, to get better today?" Take care, --Noel |
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On Jun 30, 9:52*am, Ryan Spicer wrote:
Hi all, * I've seen a lot of interesting discussion on this group improving skills and safety, so I thought I'd ask this he I'm currently training for my private pilot glider ticket, starting from zero. *I have about 12hrs in my logbook over 43 flights, about a third of which are solo. I did initial training in a 2-33 and my instructor recently checked me out in the 1-26, which I'm loving. *I have a great instructor, insofar as I'm capable of judging such things, and I'm not worried about passing the practical, but here's the question: Beyond reading the Knauff books and seeking continuing instruction, what recommendations does the group have for continuing to improve skills and be better, safer pilot after I pass the practical? I'm almost certainly going to continue training, *start learning what I need to know to fly XC, and work on the SSA badges. I've seen what looks like some good advice in some recent threads, and I'm certainly looking for more. I know my CFIG is the first and best point of contact for all these things, but I'm always in favor of getting more information when possible. *So what are the things you wish you'd known at this point in your soaring career? Also, I've searched for the Knauff books on Amazon, and they appear to be out of print. Is this correct? If so, is my best bet to purchase them through Amazon used, or are there other vendors that are preferred? Find a XC mentor or maybe two, this may not be your CFIG. If you are in a club your club may have a mentoring/XC training program. Look around the club/operation where you fly and look for people who fly cross country and do what you are interested in, ask people who've started doing this in the last few years and find out who mentored them. You CFIG should also be able to recommend folks to consider. I would try to start with the best XC pilots available locally and see if they have the inclination/interest/teaching skills to mentor. Sanity check candidates with other pilots to see if they are considered a safe pilot and good mentor. See what books (and later on things like flight analysis software, GPS, loggers, etc.) they recommend. There is a lot out there and depends on what you want to cover. If you have a technical background I'd recommend Reichman's Cross Country Soaring, meteorology seems to be often underlooked, things like Bradbury A Pilot's Guide to Weather and several other weather books are good reading. Don't sweat too much on the study part, use a mentor to help you balance what you should study. Your biggest job right now is to get your license, but I know thinking about XC soaring may help motivate you. Ideally try to arrange some dual XC flights with the mentor/CFIG in a two place XC ship as well as doing some initial buddy XC flying/ mentoring in (hopefully similar performance) single place ships - this initially should not just be following somebody else along but you and the mentor should have prepared together, discussed planning etc. (the mentor should be willing to land out with you if needed), etc. SSA and FAI badges give you some steps to aim at/structure and I think are a good thing. Make life as easy as possible for any mentor, be prepared/ organized, pay for dual rentals/tow, buy them lots of beers, etc. The main thing is to get in with a bunch of folks who fly XC and are willing to help you learn. Darryl |
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Is there a regional contest held near you? Several of the X-C gurus
will offer to fly dual with you for a modest donation to the U.S. soaring team. I did this at the Seniors last march and learned an awful lot about soaring in two hours, mostly watching from the back seat. I'd also like to echo whoever said to "fly regularly". Almost immediately after earning my PPG I began working on a power ticket. Totally different type of flying. I went back to refresh a couple of weeks ago- you'll be surprised how quickly your skills deteriorate. Flying is indeed a perishable skill. |
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On Jun 30, 12:47*pm, "noel.wade" wrote:
Ryan - Along with what the others have said (flying regularly and buying Knauff's books), I encourage you to check out different authors and different sources of gliding knowledge. *There are many books by good authors (inlcuding Reichmann, Wander, and others) that are excellent, and its always good to get different perspectives on flying technique. Hanging out around glider operations (even if you aren't flying) is a good idea. *Wing-run and check out various takeoff techniques. *Note what seems to work and what things tend to get people in trouble. Hang out with the pilots in your club that go cross-country. *They'll have lots of experience, and even if they aren't good teachers you will learn some things just by osmosis. *Never stop asking questions, and never stop trying to think ahead to "what can I work on, to get better today?" Take care, --Noel Hang out and watch and assess downwind, base, final, and landings. It never gets old and is the second most important part of flying XC. |
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At 19:29 30 June 2008, Frank Whiteley wrote:
On Jun 30, 12:47=A0pm, "noel.wade" wrote: Ryan - Along with what the others have said (flying regularly and buying Knauff's books), I encourage you to check out different authors and different sources of gliding knowledge. =A0There are many books by good authors (inlcuding Reichmann, Wander, and others) that are excellent, and its always good to get different perspectives on flying technique. Hanging out around glider operations (even if you aren't flying) is a good idea. =A0Wing-run and check out various takeoff techniques. =A0Note what seems to work and what things tend to get people in trouble. Hang out with the pilots in your club that go cross-country. =A0They'll have lots of experience, and even if they aren't good teachers you will learn some things just by osmosis. =A0Never stop asking questions, and never stop trying to think ahead to "what can I work on, to get better today?" Take care, --Noel Hang out and watch and assess downwind, base, final, and landings. It never gets old and is the second most important part of flying XC. Might even be the first; this is the part you have to get right. |
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At 16:52 30 June 2008, Ryan Spicer wrote:
Hi all, I've seen a lot of interesting discussion on this group improving skills and safety, so I thought I'd ask this he Beyond reading the Knauff books and seeking continuing instruction, what recommendations does the group have for continuing to improve skills and be better, safer pilot after I pass the practical? 1. Every time you fly, try to spot fields that you think are landable. When you drive home, drive by and evaluate your choices. After a while it becomes second nature and you'll find yourself analyzing fields everywhere you drive. 2. Realize that on any flight, you might not be able to make it back to the home field. Rain, gust fronts, altitude etc. can make a landout a necessity. Sometimes it is better to accept a landout than to try and stretch it back to the field or land IFR in rain. This becomes no big deal if you practice #1 every time you fly. 3. Realize that things can happen that scare the $hit out of you when you are new to flying. Turning base and coming head on to a tow plane, not seeing that other glider on down wind until you are way too close, looking back at the field and having it obscured by a rain shower, going out a few miles and not being able to find the field ... and so many others all qualify. Sometimes this will cause what is called adrenaline dump. Your mind becomes numb, you get tunnel vision and you feel paralized. Breath in and out slowly on the count of 4. This will clear the head. If you find yourself scared, do the breathing and get that mind working. As long as you can think, you can work your way back out of any of these situations. Brian |
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On Jun 30, 9:52*am, Ryan Spicer wrote:
Beyond reading the Knauff books and seeking continuing instruction, what recommendations does the group have for continuing to improve skills and be better, safer pilot after I pass the practical? I have four safety related articles on my web site at http://www-ee.stanford.edu/~hellman/soaring/safety.html As noted in the last of them, be particularly careful in imitating more experienced pilots' exploits such as outlandings, close-in ridge soaring, and low passes. Depending on your threshold for risk (we all take some risk or we wouldn't soar!), these can be done with acceptable risk. But I've heard some experienced pilots talk of (or demonstrate) these maneuvers without adequately mentioning the risk and that they shouldn't be performed by newer pilots without proper training and experience. And, even experience pilots can get killed doing them. I've received two requests to reprint that article from clubs which lost experienced pilots in the kinds of situations discussed there. Another good source of information is the NTSB accident database http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/query.asp Search on gliders and fatal accidents. Not that getting paralyzed is to be sneezed at, but the fatal accidents will really get your attention. Hoping this helps, and welcome to soaring! Martin |
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