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Videos: Su-37 Superflanker vs F-22 Raptor
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Su-37 http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politic...perflanker.htm F-22 http://luke.megagis.lt/AirExtreme/F22/002.mpg Commets ? Alejandro Magno |
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"Alejandro Magno" wrote in message om... Videos Su-37 http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politic...perflanker.htm F-22 http://luke.megagis.lt/AirExtreme/F22/002.mpg Commets ? Alejandro Magno There is no designation "Super Flanker". The SU-37 was designated FLANKER E variant 2. This aircraft, bort 711, crashed in December 2002. The pilot ejected successfully. Prior to the crash the 37 had been converted back to SU-35 (FLANKER E variant 1) status. TJ |
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Scott Ferrin wrote
http://www.xmission.com/~sferrin/F-22_1.mpg http://www.xmission.com/~sferrin/F-22_2.mpg http://www.xmission.com/~sferrin/Su-30_1.avi Comments? Scott Thanks for the videos, you can find more he http://www.globemaster.de/airextreme/jets.html Alejandro Magno III |
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On 3 Jan 2004 22:39:44 -0800, (Alejandro
Magno) wrote: Scott Ferrin wrote http://www.xmission.com/~sferrin/F-22_1.mpg http://www.xmission.com/~sferrin/F-22_2.mpg http://www.xmission.com/~sferrin/Su-30_1.avi Comments? Scott Thanks for the videos, you can find more he http://www.globemaster.de/airextreme/jets.html Alejandro Magno I That video of the B-52 crashing is a pretty scarey one. BTW is there some reason you feel the need to dog the US rather than to try to remain somewhat objective? I looked at your other post and it seems like you are more interested in attempting to prove something than in genuinely exchanging thoughts and information. If I'm wrong please correct me. |
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Scott Ferrin wrote
That video of the B-52 crashing is a pretty scarey one. BTW is there some reason you feel the need to dog the US rather than to try to remain somewhat objective? I looked at your other post and it seems like you are more interested in attempting to prove something than in genuinely exchanging thoughts and information. If I'm wrong please correct me. I hope I am not violating the policies of this group. Sometimes I think that the USA is overrated. Magno |
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Commets ?
Hardly a fair comparison ... Su product demo versus YF flight mishap. Maneuverability is not the panacea it might appear. 180 degree heading reversals in a phone booth certainly impress, but the aircraft is an inviting target while performing them. It might be interesting to see a 1v1, guns only engagement between the two aircraft, but it'd be irrelevant. Other aerodynamic factors ... speed, range, run-out capability, endurance .... are more significant. Tactics (how you employ the aircraft) are important. And the final argument is weapons system performance. There are numerous examples of less-maneuverable aircraft gaining superiority over their better turning adversaries. But I bet the Su is a kick in the ass to fly! R / John |
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Scott Ferrin wrote
You're not violating any policies per say (I'm not even sure there are any except basic courtesy) but when one rambles on about the supposed superiority of a country, airplane, whatever with the express intent of ****ing people off it doesn't go over real well and it's not long before people stop taking you seriously and see you as nothing more than an annoyance. If you think the Su-37 is superior to the F-22 then great. Tell us why and if it's just your opinion or actually based on facts. The fact that you started off with a video of an F-22 prototype crashing while the Flanker does a couple flips suggests all you wanted to do is slam the F-22. That being the case there are people here that would be more than happy to slam you right back but in the end you'll simply be ignored. If you feel like the US is overrated then fine. You're entitled to your own opinion. Thanks for the advice. I am new in these newsgroups. Magno |
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"John Carrier" wrote in message ...
Commets ? Hardly a fair comparison ... Su product demo versus YF flight mishap. Maneuverability is not the panacea it might appear. 180 degree heading reversals in a phone booth certainly impress, but the aircraft is an inviting target while performing them. It might be interesting to see a 1v1, guns only engagement between the two aircraft, but it'd be irrelevant. Other aerodynamic factors ... speed, range, run-out capability, endurance ... are more significant. Tactics (how you employ the aircraft) are important. And the final argument is weapons system performance. There are numerous examples of less-maneuverable aircraft gaining superiority over their better turning adversaries. But I bet the Su is a kick in the ass to fly! R / John References of Su-37: Feredarion of American Scientists http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/su-37.htm USNews: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politic...perflanker.htm Sukhoi's Chief Designer http://tomcat.fnet.cz/su37_popis.htm Global Security http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ssia/su-37.htm A plane lover: http://www.geocities.com/fighterplanelover/su37.html Magno |
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