Downloading .igc fliles from Volkslogger

The security code in my Volkslogger is A21, and when downloading
flights the file is shown as xxxA21jx.igc when downloading directly to
the computer using SeeYou.

When downloading to a PDA using P-Strepla, the file comes up in the
format xxxXBW11.igc.

I am confused and have been unable to find why the file name is
different, or how it is assigned by P-Strepla if that is what is
happening.

Any guidance from someone who understands this will be greatly
appreciated.

On Mar 2, 11:09*am, RN wrote:
The security code in my Volkslogger is A21, and when downloading
flights the file is shown as xxxA21jx.igc when downloading directly to
the computer using SeeYou.

When downloading to a PDA using P-Strepla, the file comes up in the
format xxxXBW11.igc.

I am confused and have been unable to find why the file name is
different, or how it is assigned by P-Strepla if that is what is
happening.

Any guidance from someone who understands this will be greatly
appreciated.

Why worry? The igc file is valid right? I've never used Pocket
StrePla, but third party software can name these files anything they
want. Even though there is an IGC standard file name format those
developers don't have to follow that convention. The file name is
really irrelevant to anything except your peace of mind, the name is
not digitally signed you can just change it.

Darryl

On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:27:41 -0800, Darryl Ramm wrote:

On Mar 2, 11:09Â*am, RN wrote:
The security code in my Volkslogger is A21, and when downloading
flights the file is shown as xxxA21jx.igc when downloading directly to
the computer using SeeYou.

When downloading to a PDA using P-Strepla, the file comes up in the
format xxxXBW11.igc.

I am confused and have been unable to find why the file name is
different, or how it is assigned by P-Strepla if that is what is
happening.

Any guidance from someone who understands this will be greatly
appreciated.

Why worry? The igc file is valid right? I've never used Pocket StrePla,
but third party software can name these files anything they want. Even
though there is an IGC standard file name format those developers don't
have to follow that convention. The file name is really irrelevant to
anything except your peace of mind, the name is not digitally signed you
can just change it.

I have a feeling that the main purpose of the IGC naming standard is to
generate unique 8.3 file names, even when files are being collected from
a variety of loggers at a contest.


--
martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |

On Mar 2, 11:45*am, Martin Gregorie
wrote:
On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:27:41 -0800, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Mar 2, 11:09*am, RN wrote:
The security code in my Volkslogger is A21, and when downloading
flights the file is shown as xxxA21jx.igc when downloading directly to
the computer using SeeYou.

When downloading to a PDA using P-Strepla, the file comes up in the
format xxxXBW11.igc.

I am confused and have been unable to find why the file name is
different, or how it is assigned by P-Strepla if that is what is
happening.

Any guidance from someone who understands this will be greatly
appreciated.

Why worry? The igc file is valid right? I've never used Pocket StrePla,
but third party software can name these files anything they want. Even
though there is an IGC standard file name format those developers don't
have to follow that convention. The file name is really irrelevant to
anything except your peace of mind, the name is not digitally signed you
can just change it.

I have a feeling that the main purpose of the IGC naming standard is to
generate unique 8.3 file names, even when files are being collected from
a variety of loggers at a contest.

--
martin@ * | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org * * * |

Except I suspect many CDs would find it easier if the contest ID was
encoded into the file name.

Darryl

On Mar 2, 1:10*pm, Darryl Ramm wrote:

Except I suspect many CDs would find it easier if the contest ID was
encoded into the file name.

Why? At US contests that use Winscore a contestant's flight log can
be selected and viewed without any reference to the file name.

Andy

On Mar 2, 12:38*pm, Andy wrote:
On Mar 2, 1:10*pm, Darryl Ramm wrote:



Except I suspect many CDs would find it easier if the contest ID was
encoded into the file name.

Why? *At US contests that use Winscore a contestant's flight log can
be selected and viewed without any reference to the file name.

Andy

For when the things that are supposed to work don't. And you are left
with a bunch of files to work though or sort out. I ended up having to
do that last year at a contest.

Darryl

SeeYou or TaskNav scoring software uses the generated igc file name to
identify which trace belongs to which contestant as each contestant has
their logger serial number as part of their data (along with name/contest
id/glider type etc). The files are picked up automatically, manual
intervention to select a file is only needed in extremis. I can't comment on
Winscore.

The normal igc 8.3 file name consistes of a three character year/month/day
(0 for 2010, 3 for march, 2 for the second day) this is all base 36. Year is
0-9, Month 1-C, day 1-W (31 Dec 2009 = 9CW)
followed by four characters, 1 for manufacturer of FR (C-Cambridge, A
Garrecht[Volkslogger], E-EW, L-LX/Colibri, etc) then 3 being the serial
nukber of the FR, (e.g. A02N)
followed by 1 digit representing the number of the trace for that day (so if
you have three flights they will each end 1,2,3 respectively).
so for example, 9CWA02N3.igc

In my experience, traces with an X a generated by XCSoar or maybe SeeYou
Mobile, not downloaded from a Flight Recorder. If Strepla is creating igc
filenames with weird FR Serial numbers I would suggest it is wrong to do so!




"Darryl Ramm" wrote in message
...
On Mar 2, 12:38 pm, Andy wrote:
On Mar 2, 1:10 pm, Darryl Ramm wrote:



Except I suspect many CDs would find it easier if the contest ID was
encoded into the file name.

Why? At US contests that use Winscore a contestant's flight log can
be selected and viewed without any reference to the file name.

Andy

For when the things that are supposed to work don't. And you are left
with a bunch of files to work though or sort out. I ended up having to
do that last year at a contest.

Darryl

I suspect Tim's response is the one you're after.
If you open the file in SeeYou, look at file properties:
In SeeYou, right click anywhere in the display and select flight
properties.
At the bottom of the Flight tab, you'll see the logger type. If it
doesn't read Volkslogger, that was not the file from your
Volksologger.
Jim

Thanks to everyone for the help.

JS hit it. At least, I now know where the file is originating.

Checking SeeYou as he suggested shows the file is coming from SeeYou
Mobile running on the PDA. The GPS engine is reported as Volkslogger
which is correct.

Now, I just need to figure out why P-Strepla shows it has found the
Volkslogger, and has the correct file, but somehow downloads the
SeeYou file on the PDA to the SD Card.

On Mar 2, 6:40*pm, RN wrote:
Thanks to everyone for the help.

JS hit it. At least, I now know where the file is originating.

Checking SeeYou as he suggested shows the file is coming from SeeYou
Mobile running on the PDA. The GPS engine is reported as Volkslogger
which is correct.

Now, I just need to figure out why P-Strepla shows it has found the
Volkslogger, and has the correct file, but somehow downloads the
SeeYou file on the PDA to the SD Card.

Duh I should have recognized the filenames as from SeeYou Mobile.

Are you sure that P-Strepa is copying the SeeYou Mobile file?

SeeYou Mobile can put the IGC file it creates directly on your SD
card.

Start SeeYou Mobile and go to SettingsFiles and look at what "Flight
folder"
is set to. That may solve one part of the mystery.

Darryl