Oudie vs Streak sunlight readability

Had the chance to make a photo of Oudie and Dell Streak 5" in direct
sunlight:

http://max.kellermann.name/download/..._vs_streak.jpg

On Jul 4, 12:01*pm, Max Kellermann wrote:
Had the chance to make a photo of Oudie and Dell Streak 5" in direct
sunlight:

*http://max.kellermann.name/download/...oudie_vs_strea....

Thanks I've been looking at the Oudie too, have not purchased yet.
Interesting from a side view, what about head on direct? It looked
like a plastic overlay on the Oudie, or standard view from the side of
old tv LCD screens.
The Dell is shiny glass, I have problems with that (reflections) and
direct sunlight on the iPad.

How do they both fare with sunglasses or polarized lenses?

T

On 7/4/2011 12:01 PM, Max Kellermann wrote:
Had the chance to make a photo of Oudie and Dell Streak 5" in direct
sunlight:

http://max.kellermann.name/download/..._vs_streak.jpg

The viewing angle and reflections on the two units are so different, it
seems to be a poor comparison.

I suggest you ensure they are right beside one another, with the screen
surfaces in the same viewing plane, then get the camera at least 3 feet
back, ensure they are reflecting the same background (and not your
reflection on just one of them), zoom in with the lens, and then click away.

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Eric Greenwell wrote:
The viewing angle and reflections on the two units are so different, it
seems to be a poor comparison.

I suggest you ensure they are right beside one another, with the screen
surfaces in the same viewing plane, then get the camera at least 3 feet
back, ensure they are reflecting the same background (and not your
reflection on just one of them), zoom in with the lens, and then click away.

Huh? They already are right beside one another, and they are in the
very same viewing angle. The reflected objects are similar enough
(the owner's head, and my hand, both illuminated by the sun; bright
sky on both). The HTC Magic that took the photo cannot zoom, sorry,
but that's about the only detail that doesn't match your description.

T wrote:
The Dell is shiny glass, I have problems with that (reflections) and
direct sunlight on the iPad.

Not if your eye focuses on the display rather than the reflection
(which the human eye does extremely well, unlike a digital camera). I
tried an anti-glare foil once, but decided it's better without.

How do they both fare with sunglasses or polarized lenses?

I don't have polarized sunglasses, but my cheap ones do very well with
the Streak. Cannot see a thing on the Oudie, with or without glasses.

On Jul 4, 2:34*pm, Max Kellermann wrote:
Eric Greenwell wrote:
The viewing angle and reflections on the two units are so different, it
seems to be a poor comparison.

I suggest you ensure they are right beside one another, with the screen
surfaces in the same viewing plane, then get the camera at least 3 feet
back, ensure they are reflecting the same background (and not your
reflection on just one of them), zoom in with the lens, and then click away.

Huh? *They already are right beside one another, and they are in the
very same viewing angle. *The reflected objects are similar enough
(the owner's head, and my hand, both illuminated by the sun; bright
sky on both). *The HTC Magic that took the photo cannot zoom, sorry,
but that's about the only detail that doesn't match your description.

Max

Nope sorry, the screens are not at the same viewing angle relative to
the (close) camera viewpoint. The angle on the Oudie screen is more
obtuse. You need to move the camera back to reduce this effect and/or
ideally use a camera with a longer focal length lens or take two
separate photos at the same relative angle on both screens to make a
fairer comparison. Your claims on relative ease of viewing may well be
true, but the viewing angle differences on the photos just do not
allow a fair comparison to be made.

Darryl

On Jul 4, 1:56*pm, T wrote:
On Jul 4, 12:01*pm, Max Kellermann wrote:

Had the chance to make a photo of Oudie and Dell Streak 5" in direct
sunlight:

*http://max.kellermann.name/download/...oudie_vs_strea...

Thanks I've been looking at the Oudie too, have not purchased yet.
Interesting from a side view, what about head on direct? It looked
like a plastic overlay on the Oudie, or standard view from the side of
old tv LCD screens.
The Dell is shiny glass, I have problems with that (reflections) and
direct sunlight on the iPad.

How do they both fare with sunglasses or polarized lenses?

T

T,

Can not compare the Streak to the Oudie, but...

I have a Streak and it is quite good with polarized lenses when used
in portrait mode. In landscape mode the screen is not very visable.

The reflection issue with the Gorilla Glass on the Streak is really
not much of a problem or issue, as the Streak is fairly bright. A
slight angle change removes any reflection problem.

Another nice feature of the Streak is that it can be used for 5-6
hours without an external battery. Using XCSoar on the Streak is a
very good 'Tactical Soaring' program/device solution. And, if you
connect a Nano via Bluetooth, you have an excellent combination for
badges, contests and records, for a very reasonable price.

Good luck,

Mike

Mike

On Jul 4, 8:51*pm, Mike wrote:
On Jul 4, 1:56*pm, T wrote:









On Jul 4, 12:01*pm, Max Kellermann wrote:

Had the chance to make a photo of Oudie and Dell Streak 5" in direct
sunlight:

*http://max.kellermann.name/download/...oudie_vs_strea...

Thanks I've been looking at the Oudie too, have not purchased yet.
Interesting from a side view, what about head on direct? It looked
like a plastic overlay on the Oudie, or standard view from the side of
old tv LCD screens.
The Dell is shiny glass, I have problems with that (reflections) and
direct sunlight on the iPad.

How do they both fare with sunglasses or polarized lenses?

T

T,

Can not compare the Streak to the Oudie, but...

I have a Streak and it is quite good with polarized lenses when used
in portrait mode. In landscape mode the screen is not very visable.

The reflection issue with the Gorilla Glass on the Streak is really
not much of a problem or issue, as the Streak is fairly bright. *A
slight angle change removes any reflection problem.

Another nice feature of the Streak is that it can be used for 5-6
hours without an external battery. Using XCSoar on the Streak is a
very good 'Tactical Soaring' program/device solution. And, if you
connect a Nano via Bluetooth, you have an excellent combination for
badges, contests and records, for a very reasonable price.

Good luck,

Mike

Mike

How do you get a secure igc out of the XcSoar?

How do you get a secure igc out of the XcSoar?

probably the same way you do out of the Oudie, i.e. you don't.

I haven't had an issue with sunlight readability on my Oudie this
season on several flights. I have non-polarized Ray Ban sunglasses
and fairly young eyes as far as glider pilots go.

On Jul 5, 9:50*am, Fred Blair wrote:
On Jul 4, 8:51*pm, Mike wrote:





On Jul 4, 1:56*pm, T wrote:

On Jul 4, 12:01*pm, Max Kellermann wrote:

Had the chance to make a photo of Oudie and Dell Streak 5" in direct
sunlight:

*http://max.kellermann.name/download/...oudie_vs_strea...

Thanks I've been looking at the Oudie too, have not purchased yet.
Interesting from a side view, what about head on direct? It looked
like a plastic overlay on the Oudie, or standard view from the side of
old tv LCD screens.
The Dell is shiny glass, I have problems with that (reflections) and
direct sunlight on the iPad.

How do they both fare with sunglasses or polarized lenses?

T

T,

Can not compare the Streak to the Oudie, but...

I have a Streak and it is quite good with polarized lenses when used
in portrait mode. In landscape mode the screen is not very visable.

The reflection issue with the Gorilla Glass on the Streak is really
not much of a problem or issue, as the Streak is fairly bright. *A
slight angle change removes any reflection problem.

Another nice feature of the Streak is that it can be used for 5-6
hours without an external battery. Using XCSoar on the Streak is a
very good 'Tactical Soaring' program/device solution. And, if you
connect a Nano via Bluetooth, you have an excellent combination for
badges, contests and records, for a very reasonable price.

Good luck,

Mike

Mike

How do you get a secure igc out of the XcSoar?- Hide quoted text -

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For badge flights I get a secure log from the Nano. If nothing has
changed recently, XCSoar is on the OLC approved software list.