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Pilots have been flying in Uvalde and feedback is positive, see
postings on R.A.S and other locations e.g. John Cochrane: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...0c70618a?hl=en Nevertheless there are some issues which require our attention: FLARM range Some of the pilots have reported a very short range on the FLARM transmissions (0.2nm). This is of course too little, as an effective collision warning requires 1.5nm of minimum range. Our R&D reacted quickly (not all of Europe is on vacation in August) and sent out a firmware update which records FLARM range, battery level, internal temperature and many other parameters into a diagnostic file. With the help of some of the affected pilots we were able to acquire data and defective devices, which have been analyzed. We have tracked the issue to a batch of defective FLARM RF antennas. Shipments are on hold while we exchange these antennas, but should resume after Labor Day. Existing customers should hold on to their units while we set up a diagnosis and repair program. Battery Runtimes as little as three hours have been reported. This was caused by the very high temperatures at Uvalde, the PowerFLARM internal temperature sensor measured up to 160 degree Fahrenheit inside the housing. Rechargeable Ni-MH batteries deliver less than half their capacity at those temperatures. Runtimes in 'normal' temperatures have been confirmed at 6h+ The following recommendations will extend battery life: 1) Reduce Display Brightness The PowerFLARM LCD display is 'transflective' which means that the brightness is dominated by how much light falls onto the display. In fact the brightness setting (of the backlight) makes no difference in full sunlight. Reducing the 'Brightness' setting (in Settings/Brightness) can extend battery life by up to 15% 2) Use alkaline batteries in hot environments In high temperatures, Alkaline batteries do not degrade as much as the consumer Ni-MH rechargeables. High temperature rechargeable batteries are available, we are in the process of testing. We will work with dealers and the rental program to make rechargeable batteries and chargers ? suitable for high temperatures available. 3) Power from aircrafts 12V supply But make sure no alkaline batteries are inserted when applying external power! 4) Reduction in power consumption We will implement firmware improvements which will further reduce the power consumption of PowerFLARM. The FLARM Team August 27, 2011 |
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On Aug 28, 1:45*pm, ursus wrote:
Pilots have been flying in Uvalde and feedback is positive, see postings on R.A.S and other locations e.g. John Cochrane:http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a.../788ec3b10c706... Nevertheless there are some issues which require our attention: FLARM range Some of the pilots have reported a very short range on the FLARM transmissions (0.2nm). This is of course too little, as an effective collision warning requires 1.5nm of minimum range. Our R&D reacted quickly (not all of Europe is on vacation in August) and sent out a firmware update which records FLARM range, battery level, internal temperature and many other parameters into a diagnostic file. With the help of some of the affected pilots we were able to acquire data and defective devices, which have been analyzed. We have tracked the issue to a batch of defective FLARM RF antennas. Shipments are on hold while we exchange these antennas, but should resume after Labor Day. Existing customers should hold on to their units while we set up a diagnosis and repair program. Battery Runtimes as little as three hours have been reported. This was caused by the very high temperatures at Uvalde, the PowerFLARM internal temperature sensor measured up to 160 degree Fahrenheit inside the housing. Rechargeable Ni-MH batteries deliver less than half their capacity at those temperatures. Runtimes in 'normal' temperatures have been confirmed at 6h+ The following recommendations will extend battery life: 1) Reduce Display Brightness The PowerFLARM LCD display is 'transflective' which means that the brightness is dominated by how much light falls onto the display. In fact the brightness setting (of the backlight) makes no difference in full sunlight. Reducing the 'Brightness' setting (in Settings/Brightness) can extend battery life by up to 15% 2) Use alkaline batteries in hot environments In high temperatures, Alkaline batteries do not degrade as much as the consumer Ni-MH rechargeables. High temperature rechargeable batteries are available, we are in the process of testing. We will work with dealers and the rental program to make rechargeable batteries and chargers ? suitable for high temperatures available. 3) Power from aircrafts 12V supply But make sure no alkaline batteries are inserted when applying external power! 4) Reduction in power consumption We will implement firmware improvements which will further reduce the power consumption of PowerFLARM. The FLARM Team August 27, 2011 Thanks Urs. I wasn't at Uvalde, but heard about all those issues via "jungle telegraph". Glad you are on it. What is the design range for PowerFlarm? What is typical current draw from a 12V system? Any update on PCAS or logger functions? -Evan Ludeman / T8 |
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First, thank you for these updates as they go a long way towards
helping us understand the challenges involved and keeping the customers in the loop. Second, after flying with the PFLARM in Uvalde I have grown to appreciate what a majority of the rest of the soaring world already knew, FLARM works. There are times when the unit displays multiple threats in a big tight gaggle but it mostly stays quite except when there is a real potential of collision. After seeing the device in action on several occasions during Uvalde I was impressed with the accuracy of the threat detection. On one day a PFLARM equipped glider had to take a relight and overflew the 15/18 meter grid to land. You could hear the FLARM alerts starting at the back of the grid rolling forward as the glider passed overhead. The landing gliders FLARM never went off as a testimony to the threat detection. He could have hit us but we could never have hit him. I never thought I would be happy about adding a brick to my glider. John Seaborn |
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Alpha Eight wrote:
First, thank you for these updates as they go a long way towards helping us understand the challenges involved and keeping the customers in the loop. Second, after flying with the PFLARM in Uvalde I have grown to appreciate what a majority of the rest of the soaring world already knew, FLARM works. There are times when the unit displays multiple threats in a big tight gaggle but it mostly stays quite except when there is a real potential of collision. After seeing the device in action on several occasions during Uvalde I was impressed with the accuracy of the threat detection. On one day a PFLARM equipped glider had to take a relight and overflew the 15/18 meter grid to land. You could hear the FLARM alerts starting at the back of the grid rolling forward as the glider passed overhead. The landing gliders FLARM never went off as a testimony to the threat detection. He could have hit us but we could never have hit him. I never thought I would be happy about adding a brick to my glider. John Seaborn BTW the landing glider's PowerFLARM did not warn of threats as stationary/on the ground FLARM/PowerFLARM units do not transmit signals. I suspect this is done for many reasons including you do not want to distract pilots when they are landing. Just another example of an all round impressive system. Darryl |
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On Aug 29, 8:48*am, Darryl Ramm wrote:
BTW the landing glider's PowerFLARM did not *warn of threats as stationary/on the ground FLARM/PowerFLARM units do not transmit signals. I suspect this is done for many reasons including you do not want to distract pilots when they are landing. Just another example of an all round impressive system. Darryl The aircraft on the ground actually do transmit a signal, but alarms are being suppressed for landing gliders as it would distract the pilot too much. Urs |
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On Aug 29, 11:54*am, ursus wrote:
On Aug 29, 8:48*am, Darryl Ramm wrote: BTW the landing glider's PowerFLARM did not *warn of threats as stationary/on the ground FLARM/PowerFLARM units do not transmit signals.. I suspect this is done for many reasons including you do not want to distract pilots when they are landing. Just another example of an all round impressive system. Darryl The aircraft on the ground actually do transmit a signal, but alarms are being suppressed for landing gliders as it would distract the pilot too much. Urs Under what "landing" conditions are alarms suppressed? I'd certinly like to be alerted to an opposite base head on with another glider or a tug. |
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Andy wrote:
On Aug 29, 11:54 am, ursus wrote: On Aug 29, 8:48 am, Darryl Ramm wrote: BTW the landing glider's PowerFLARM did not warn of threats as stationary/on the ground FLARM/PowerFLARM units do not transmit signals. I suspect this is done for many reasons including you do not want to distract pilots when they are landing. Just another example of an all round impressive system. Darryl The aircraft on the ground actually do transmit a signal, but alarms are being suppressed for landing gliders as it would distract the pilot too much. Urs Under what "landing" conditions are alarms suppressed? I'd certinly like to be alerted to an opposite base head on with another glider or a tug. They are suppressed if the other glider is on the ground. Don't know the exact details of what counts as on the ground. I've had similar comments from folks at other busy fields how well this works and Urs explained it to me at a seminar, and I still got it backward. Sorry. Sigh. Darryl |
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On Aug 29, 7:09*pm, Darryl Ramm wrote:
Andy wrote: On Aug 29, 11:54 am, ursus wrote: On Aug 29, 8:48 am, Darryl Ramm wrote: BTW the landing glider's PowerFLARM did not *warn of threats as stationary/on the ground FLARM/PowerFLARM units do not transmit signals. I suspect this is done for many reasons including you do not want to distract pilots when they are landing. Just another example of an all round impressive system. Darryl The aircraft on the ground actually do transmit a signal, but alarms are being suppressed for landing gliders as it would distract the pilot too much. Urs Under what "landing" conditions are alarms suppressed? *I'd certinly like to be alerted to an opposite base head on with another glider or a tug. They are suppressed if the other glider is on the ground. Don't know the exact details of what counts as on the ground. *I've had similar comments from folks at other busy fields how well this works and Urs explained it to me at a seminar, and I still got it backward. Sorry. Sigh. Darryl Sounds like it can tell whether the target is moving or not. The ships on the ground are probably indicating speed = zero in the flarm radio packets. If that's the case, this device is not meant for helicopters. ![]() |
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On 8/29/2011 7:26 PM, Westbender wrote:
On Aug 29, 7:09 pm, Darryl wrote: wrote: On Aug 29, 11:54 am, wrote: On Aug 29, 8:48 am, Darryl wrote: BTW the landing glider's PowerFLARM did not warn of threats as stationary/on the ground FLARM/PowerFLARM units do not transmit signals. I suspect this is done for many reasons including you do not want to distract pilots when they are landing. Just another example of an all round impressive system. Darryl The aircraft on the ground actually do transmit a signal, but alarms are being suppressed for landing gliders as it would distract the pilot too much. Urs Under what "landing" conditions are alarms suppressed? I'd certinly like to be alerted to an opposite base head on with another glider or a tug. They are suppressed if the other glider is on the ground. Don't know the exact details of what counts as on the ground. I've had similar comments from folks at other busy fields how well this works and Urs explained it to me at a seminar, and I still got it backward. Sorry. Sigh. Darryl Sounds like it can tell whether the target is moving or not. The ships on the ground are probably indicating speed = zero in the flarm radio packets. If that's the case, this device is not meant for helicopters. ![]() That's an interesting question. A couple of years ago I almost had a midair with a helicopter that was hoovering 5' off the ground at the arrival end of the runway. Never saw him until we turned base and were committed to landing. If the helicopter were FLARM equipped, would he have shown up as an alarm? Would he show up as a target on a display with a FLARM interface, so we could have seen him before we entered the pattern (even more important that generating an alarm at the last moment)? -- Mike Schumann |
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On 8/29/2011 6:38 PM, Mike Schumann wrote:
On 8/29/2011 7:26 PM, Westbender wrote: On Aug 29, 7:09 pm, Darryl wrote: wrote: On Aug 29, 11:54 am, wrote: On Aug 29, 8:48 am, Darryl wrote: BTW the landing glider's PowerFLARM did not warn of threats as stationary/on the ground FLARM/PowerFLARM units do not transmit signals. I suspect this is done for many reasons including you do not want to distract pilots when they are landing. Just another example of an all round impressive system. Darryl The aircraft on the ground actually do transmit a signal, but alarms are being suppressed for landing gliders as it would distract the pilot too much. Urs Under what "landing" conditions are alarms suppressed? I'd certinly like to be alerted to an opposite base head on with another glider or a tug. They are suppressed if the other glider is on the ground. Don't know the exact details of what counts as on the ground. I've had similar comments from folks at other busy fields how well this works and Urs explained it to me at a seminar, and I still got it backward. Sorry. Sigh. Darryl Sounds like it can tell whether the target is moving or not. The ships on the ground are probably indicating speed = zero in the flarm radio packets. If that's the case, this device is not meant for helicopters. ![]() That's an interesting question. A couple of years ago I almost had a midair with a helicopter that was hoovering 5' off the ground at the arrival end of the runway. Never saw him until we turned base and were committed to landing. If the helicopter were FLARM equipped, would he have shown up as an alarm? Would he show up as a target on a display with a FLARM interface, so we could have seen him before we entered the pattern (even more important that generating an alarm at the last moment)? One of the config settings in PowerFLARM is aircraft type. Choices a Unknown Glider Towplane Helicopter Parachute Drop plane Hang glider Paraglider Motorplane Jet aircraft UFO Balloon Airship UAV |
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