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	In message , gayboy wrote: how good were they against american pilots? They were better than the Chinese pilots, and if you believe Soviet claims, they shot down near the entire production run of F-86s. g of course they are nonsense. an american pilot was probably 5 times as good as the best russian pilot.  | 
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			 "ville terminale" wrote in message om... Michael P. Reed wrote in message . .. In message , gayboy wrote: how good were they against american pilots? They were better than the Chinese pilots, and if you believe Soviet claims, they shot down near the entire production run of F-86s. g of course they are nonsense. an american pilot was probably 5 times as good as the best russian pilot. Just out of curious how do you come out with the claim the American pilot was 5 time as good as the best russian pilot, I think you are talking rubbish.  | 
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			 "john" wrote in message ... "ville terminale" wrote in message om... Michael P. Reed wrote in message . .. In message , gayboy wrote: how good were they against american pilots? They were better than the Chinese pilots, and if you believe Soviet claims, they shot down near the entire production run of F-86s. g of course they are nonsense. an american pilot was probably 5 times as good as the best russian pilot. Just out of curious how do you come out with the claim the American pilot was 5 time as good as the best russian pilot, I think you are talking rubbish. One thing we do know...the Mig 15 was pretty useless unless it had the British Rolls-Royce engine in it...which BTW, the design was stolen from a German prototype. The Mig 15 wasn't really a Russian aircraft, it was much more German in its origins.  | 
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id est..the design for the engine was stolen from the Brits. The design for 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		 
		
	
	
	the aircraft was stolen from the Germans. "Stinky Pete" wrote in message news ![]() "john" wrote in message ... "ville terminale" wrote in message om... Michael P. Reed wrote in message . .. In message , gayboy wrote: how good were they against american pilots? They were better than the Chinese pilots, and if you believe Soviet claims, they shot down near the entire production run of F-86s. g of course they are nonsense. an american pilot was probably 5 times as good as the best russian pilot. Just out of curious how do you come out with the claim the American pilot was 5 time as good as the best russian pilot, I think you are talking rubbish. One thing we do know...the Mig 15 was pretty useless unless it had the British Rolls-Royce engine in it...which BTW, the design was stolen from a German prototype. The Mig 15 wasn't really a Russian aircraft, it was much more German in its origins.  | 
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			 "Stinky Pete" wrote in message ... id est..the design for the engine was stolen from the Brits. Not so much stolen as given away. The post war UK government sold a small number of engines to the USSR hoping for a larger order. All they did was copy it. Keith  | 
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	"Stinky Pete" wrote in message ... id est..the design for the engine was stolen from the Brits. Not so much stolen as given away. The post war UK government sold a small number of engines to the USSR hoping for a larger order. All they did was copy it. To bad the SCO Group was not around then, eh? -- Regards, Michael P. Reed  | 
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	"ville terminale" wrote in message om... Michael P. Reed wrote in message . .. In message , gayboy wrote: how good were they against american pilots? They were better than the Chinese pilots, and if you believe Soviet claims, they shot down near the entire production run of F-86s. g of course they are nonsense. an american pilot was probably 5 times as good as the best russian pilot. Just out of curious how do you come out with the claim the American pilot was 5 time as good as the best russian pilot, I think you are talking rubbish. better training, diet, morale, spirit, and better jets.  | 
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	Michael P. Reed wrote: In message , "Keith Willshaw" wrote: Not so much stolen as given away. The post war UK government sold a small number of engines to the USSR hoping for a larger order. All they did was copy it. To bad the SCO Group was not around then, eh? Good thing for the Russians they didn't pirate software...or music CDs. -- David H. Thornley | If you want my opinion, ask. | If you don't, flee. http://www.thornley.net/~thornley/david/ | O-  | 
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			 "ville terminale" wrote in message om... "john" wrote in message ... "ville terminale" wrote in message om... Michael P. Reed wrote in message . .. In message , gayboy wrote: how good were they against american pilots? They were better than the Chinese pilots, and if you believe Soviet claims, they shot down near the entire production run of F-86s. g of course they are nonsense. an american pilot was probably 5 times as good as the best russian pilot. Just out of curious how do you come out with the claim the American pilot was 5 time as good as the best russian pilot, I think you are talking rubbish. better training, diet, morale, spirit, and better jets. None of the above are necesarily true at that time.  | 
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	om... of course they are nonsense. an american pilot was probably 5 times as good as the best russian pilot. The Russian pilots acquited themselves well flying the MiG-15 in combat over Korea but the fact they couldn't communicate in Russian and the problem of the MiG-15 suffering from yaw instability problems above Mach 0.87 limited the success of the plane. Indeed, a couple of Russian pilots tried to outdive the F-86 but the MiG-15 ended up breaking up in the air instead. -- Raymond Chuang Sacramento, CA USA  | 
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