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Old August 20th 13, 02:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Andy[_1_]
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Default New Butterfly Display Software 3.2.1 released

"It would be clearest if there was only a minus sign in case of negative altitude difference and no sign in case of positive altitude difference. "

Those that developed the internationally recognized standards for CDTI and TCAS would not agree with you.

Andy
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Old August 20th 13, 02:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Daly[_2_]
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Default New Butterfly Display Software 3.2.1 released

I haven't had the chance to fly with 3.2.2 yet, but I must say I am optimistic.

As for the plus/minus debate, my personal preference would be a little arrow pointing down if it is below me, and a little arrow pointing up if it's above me. I prefer arrows/needles to text.

Dan
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Old August 20th 13, 03:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Luke Szczepaniak
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Default New Butterfly Display Software 3.2.1 released

On 08/20/2013 9:58 AM, Dan Daly wrote:
I haven't had the chance to fly with 3.2.2 yet, but I must say I am optimistic.

As for the plus/minus debate, my personal preference would be a little arrow pointing down if it is below me, and a little arrow pointing up if it's above me. I prefer arrows/needles to text.

Dan
2D (Canada)



10+ hrs without the issue reappearing.

Luke
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Old August 20th 13, 05:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default New Butterfly Display Software 3.2.1 released

On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 6:58:30 AM UTC-7, Dan Daly wrote:
I haven't had the chance to fly with 3.2.2 yet, but I must say I am optimistic. As for the plus/minus debate, my personal preference would be a little arrow pointing down if it is below me, and a little arrow pointing up if it's above me. I prefer arrows/needles to text. Dan 2D (Canada)


Arrows are used to indicate target climbing or descending. There are standards for presenting traffic data. Please let's not invent a completely new and conflicting user interface.

Andy
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Old August 20th 13, 05:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default New Butterfly Display Software 3.2.1 released

On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 12:06:06 PM UTC-4, Andy wrote:
On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 6:58:30 AM UTC-7, Dan Daly wrote:

I haven't had the chance to fly with 3.2.2 yet, but I must say I am optimistic. As for the plus/minus debate, my personal preference would be a little arrow pointing down if it is below me, and a little arrow pointing up if it's above me. I prefer arrows/needles to text. Dan 2D (Canada)




Arrows are used to indicate target climbing or descending. There are standards for presenting traffic data. Please let's not invent a completely new and conflicting user interface.



Andy


A question for PowerFLARM - I'm using a PowerFLARM brick (firmware 3.31) with a Butterfly 57 mm display (firmware 3.2.1). My alerts are 99% PCAS types.. While I get altitude difference and range, I do not see any climbing or descending arrows on the alert screen.

This behavior is unlike what my Zaon PCAS produced. Are there any plans to implement such arrows?

-John, Q3
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Old August 25th 13, 01:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default New Butterfly Display Software 3.2.1 released

On Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:27:27 AM UTC-4, Marc - Butterfly Avionics wrote:
Hi Guys,



we found the bug and it is resolved in the latest version. The bug appears in portrait mode and only with "feet" set up as units for relative altitude.



We are going to release the new version as soon as we hear positive results from our testers. If you wish to test this not released BETA version, please download it he

- update softwa http://www.butterfly-avionics.com/su...3_2_2_2332.exe

- PF update file: http://www.butterfly.aero/support/bfd_3_2_2_2332.bfw



I look forward to receiving your feedback!



Best regards and thanks for the quick feedback and help in finding this

Marc



Disclaimer: The version posted is BETA (that is unfinished and untested software) and may not work as expected. Only test it if very familiar with your aircraft and in low traffic situations. If you experience an increase in workload due to testing, switch your collision warning unit off.


I flew 2 flights, 3 hours, Butterfly display 3.2.2 beta, flarmnet america_0019bd.bfn, flarm firmware 3.31. Display vertical, in feet, and it worked perfectly. Problem solved.

Dan
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Old August 26th 13, 12:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default New Butterfly Display Software 3.2.1 released

A question for PowerFLARM - I'm using a PowerFLARM brick (firmware 3.31) with a Butterfly 57 mm display (firmware 3.2.1). My alerts are 99% PCAS types. While I get altitude difference and range, I do not see any climbing or descending arrows on the alert screen.

John,

thanks for the suggestion. I'll put it on our TODO list, but at the moment
we have more important issues.

Best
--Gerhard
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Old August 28th 13, 02:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
kirk.stant
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Default New Butterfly Display Software 3.2.1 released

On Monday, August 26, 2013 6:50:50 AM UTC-5, wrote:

thanks for the suggestion. I'll put it on our TODO list, but at the moment

we have more important issues.



Best

--Gerhard


Gerhard, please look at the way the ZAON MRX displays PCAS targets (which I believe conforms with the standards for displaying traffic - Andy chime in?):

Distance (approximate), altitude difference (with leading + or -), and trend arrow up or down indicating whether the target is climbing or descending. Without a bearing to the threat, altitude and what it's doing becomes the most important data needed to find and avoid the threat, and all this data is available - it just needs to be displayed IN BIG DIGITS/SYMBOLS so us old guys can see it better!

I use a PF core in my glider and my MRX in club towplanes/gliders. I consider both to be essential bits of kit these days.


Kirk
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