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;-) Perhaps we can infer a correlation between the proliferation of electronic gadgets in our cockpits with the dumbing down of glider pilots? There are Standford University studies that indicate that multitasking can lower your IQ or that "people who are regularly bombarded with several streams of electronic information cannot pay attention, recall information, or switch from one job to another as well as those who complete one task at a time".
http://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbr...udies-suggest/ RAS posts seem to verify these studies! So, the obvious solution is to dump all the spendy computers, fly with basic instruments, enjoy the scenery, and preserve the gray matter! Fly safe and have fun. |
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Le mardi 21 octobre 2014 16:08:15 UTC-4, Craig R. a écrit*:
;-) Perhaps we can infer a correlation between the proliferation of electronic gadgets in our cockpits with the dumbing down of glider pilots? There are Standford University studies that indicate that multitasking can lower your IQ or that "people who are regularly bombarded with several streams of electronic information cannot pay attention, recall information, or switch from one job to another as well as those who complete one task at a time". http://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbr...udies-suggest/ RAS posts seem to verify these studies! So, the obvious solution is to dump all the spendy computers, fly with basic instruments, enjoy the scenery, and preserve the gray matter! Fly safe and have fun. Hi Sometime I think you are right. One club member I fly with has been flying for 45 years. Is current glider is a ASG 29 with one vario, a 45 years old Badin type 100 mechanical vario, nothing else. Take off first fly all over the place land last. I wonder??? Gilles |
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On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 13:08:15 -0700, Craig R. wrote:
;-) Perhaps we can infer a correlation between the proliferation of electronic gadgets in our cockpits with the dumbing down of glider pilots? There are Standford University studies that indicate that multitasking can lower your IQ or that "people who are regularly bombarded with several streams of electronic information cannot pay attention, recall information, or switch from one job to another as well as those who complete one task at a time". http://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbr.../multitasking- damages-your-brain-and-career-new-studies-suggest/ RAS posts seem to verify these studies! So, the obvious solution is to dump all the spendy computers, fly with basic instruments, enjoy the scenery, and preserve the gray matter! Fly safe and have fun. Hmmm. Apart from the usual aircraft instruments, (Alt,ASI,compass,radio) I carry: - two varios - both happen to be electronic - one electronic nav system (LK8000), which I reckon is less distracting than periodically fiddling with a paper map - one FLARM display I'd be interested to know chucking out the FLARM, replacing the varios with a mechanical one and using a folding map in place of the automatically scrolling one is supposed to keep me safe and reduce cockpit workload. A mechanical vario means more head in cockpit time because you have to look at it instead of listening to an electronic one. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | |
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s6 wrote, On 10/21/2014 1:27 PM:
Le mardi 21 octobre 2014 16:08:15 UTC-4, Craig R. a �crit�: ;-) Perhaps we can infer a correlation between the proliferation of electronic gadgets in our cockpits with the dumbing down of glider pilots? There are Standford University studies that indicate that multitasking can lower your IQ or that "people who are regularly bombarded with several streams of electronic information cannot pay attention, recall information, or switch from one job to another as well as those who complete one task at a time". http://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbr...udies-suggest/ RAS posts seem to verify these studies! So, the obvious solution is to dump all the spendy computers, fly with basic instruments, enjoy the scenery, and preserve the gray matter! Fly safe and have fun. Hi Sometime I think you are right. One club member I fly with has been flying for 45 years. Is current glider is a ASG 29 with one vario, a 45 years old Badin type 100 mechanical vario, nothing else. Take off first fly all over the place land last. I wonder??? Gilles Unless your club member also flies contests or posts on the OLC, you don't really know how efficiently and effectively he is flying. If it's been a long time in the same place, he doesn't need navigation equipment, and staying up a long time isn't difficult in an area one knows well. -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me) - "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1 - "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm http://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl |
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...Sometime I think you are right. One club member I fly with has been flying for 45 years. Is current glider is a ASG 29 with one vario, a 45 years old Badin type 100 mechanical vario, nothing else. Take off first fly all over the place land last. I wonder??? Gilles Unless your club member also flies contests or posts on the OLC, you don't really know how efficiently and effectively he is flying. If it's been a long time in the same place, he doesn't need navigation equipment, and staying up a long time isn't difficult in an area one knows well. Oookay - winter must be approaching in the northern hemisphere. :-) Coupla comments... - Certainly contests and OLC are helpful gauges of "soaring efficiency and effectiveness" but, somehow or other, along the way I concluded people enjoy the sport for a heckuva lot more reasons than "just" those two. SOMEthing must've been keeping Gilles' fellow clubmember at it for the more than 3 decades he or she was at it before OLC came on the scene! Just my guess, of course. If a person's having fun at soaring all their life, who am I to care whether or not they're being efficient and effective, so long as they're being safe and are happy. Everyone associated with the sport benefits. JMO... - Regarding navigation, as one having gained the bulk of his soaring time around mountains (Alleghenies and Rockies), I long felt no sectional was necessary once a person had learned "their local area" - which of course might easily have a radius of hundreds of miles. But then a friend broke his PIK-20 on a (horribly) botched outlanding in the mountains, not 35 air-miles from our home field. His excuse at the time? "I couldn't find the airfield my sectional said was in the valley!" So after commiserating with him for a while on the grief he'd caused himself, we got around to the twin facts that he wasn't in the valley he thought he was, and, the airfield didn't exist in any event. Worse, had he flown his pattern properly - and into the wind (!) - the forest opening that miraculously appeared when he absolutely needed one, would've likely been landable damage-free. I'm sure there are several morals in this dubious tale. The good news is my friend stuck with it and at least didn't repeat his errors... - As for staying aloft and soaring, in the intermountain west, the biggest obstacle to doing so in the absence of airspeed and vario was - I found - belief in one's ability to do so. XC soaring sans functioning ASI was trivially easy, XC w/o functioning vario only slightly less so, while I had to convince myself that I could (relatively) easily remain aloft without both, before daring to venture XC. I blame all those experiences on water in the lines and cheapness. No FARS were violated and no damage was inflicted on the sailplane in the learning of these things... Bob W. |
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BobW wrote, On 10/21/2014 8:04 PM:
Snippage... ...Sometime I think you are right. One club member I fly with has been flying for 45 years. Is current glider is a ASG 29 with one vario, a 45 years old Badin type 100 mechanical vario, nothing else. Take off first fly all over the place land last. I wonder??? Gilles Unless your club member also flies contests or posts on the OLC, you don't really know how efficiently and effectively he is flying. If it's been a long time in the same place, he doesn't need navigation equipment, and staying up a long time isn't difficult in an area one knows well. Oookay - winter must be approaching in the northern hemisphere. :-) Coupla comments... - Certainly contests and OLC are helpful gauges of "soaring efficiency and effectiveness" but, somehow or other, along the way I concluded people enjoy the sport for a heckuva lot more reasons than "just" those two. SOMEthing must've been keeping Gilles' fellow clubmember at it for the more than 3 decades he or she was at it before OLC came on the scene! Just my guess, of course. If a person's having fun at soaring all their life, who am I to care whether or not they're being efficient and effective, so long as they're being safe and are happy. Everyone associated with the sport benefits. JMO... The comments weren't intended to reflect on your club member's abilities or happiness! Instead, it was directed at the idea that "a lot" of instruments might make a pilot "dumber" and less effective. My experience is going fast and far safely, especially in less familiar places, is much easier with a moving map soaring computer and audio vario; conversely, at my home field, when wandering around opportunistically, they aren't much benefit. -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me) - "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1 - "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm http://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl |
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At 05:29 22 October 2014, Eric Greenwell wrote:
BobW wrote, On 10/21/2014 8:04 PM: ...Sometime I think you are right. One club member I fly with has been flying for 45 years. Is current glider is a ASG 29 with one vario, a 45 years old Badin type 100 mechanical vario, nothing else. Take off first fly all over the place land last. I wonder??? Gilles Unless your club member also flies contests or posts on the OLC, you don't really know how efficiently and effectively he is flying. If it's been a long time in the same place, he doesn't need navigation equipment, and staying up a long time isn't difficult in an area one knows well. Oookay - winter must be approaching in the northern hemisphere. :-) Coupla comments... - Certainly contests and OLC are helpful gauges of "soaring efficiency and effectiveness" but, somehow or other, along the way I concluded people enjoy the sport for a heckuva lot more reasons than "just" those two. SOMEthing must've been keeping Gilles' fellow clubmember at it for the more than 3 decades he or she was at it before OLC came on the scene! Just my guess, of course. If a person's having fun at soaring all their life, who am I to care whether or not they're being efficient and effective, so long as they're being safe and are happy. Everyone associated with the sport benefits. JMO... The comments weren't intended to reflect on your club member's abilities or happiness! Instead, it was directed at the idea that "a lot" of instruments might make a pilot "dumber" and less effective. My experience is going fast and far safely, especially in less familiar places, is much easier with a moving map soaring computer and audio vario; conversely, at my home field, when wandering around opportunistically, they aren't much benefit. -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me) - "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorg.../download-the- guide-1 - "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm http://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl |
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Le mardi 21 octobre 2014 16:08:15 UTC-4, Craig R. a écrit*:
;-) Perhaps we can infer a correlation between the proliferation of electronic gadgets in our cockpits with the dumbing down of glider pilots? There are Standford University studies that indicate that multitasking can lower your IQ or that "people who are regularly bombarded with several streams of electronic information cannot pay attention, recall information, or switch from one job to another as well as those who complete one task at a time". http://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbr...udies-suggest/ RAS posts seem to verify these studies! So, the obvious solution is to dump all the spendy computers, fly with basic instruments, enjoy the scenery, and preserve the gray matter! Fly safe and have fun. Hi My comment was about vario sophistication. My friend has a Nano and a Garmin for navigation. It was also a reflection on my obsessive quest for a better vario. Gilles |
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 04:10:18 -0700, s6 wrote:
Le mardi 21 octobre 2014 16:08:15 UTC-4, Craig R. a écritÂ*: ;-) Perhaps we can infer a correlation between the proliferation of electronic gadgets in our cockpits with the dumbing down of glider pilots? There are Standford University studies that indicate that multitasking can lower your IQ or that "people who are regularly bombarded with several streams of electronic information cannot pay attention, recall information, or switch from one job to another as well as those who complete one task at a time". http://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbr.../multitasking- damages-your-brain-and-career-new-studies-suggest/ RAS posts seem to verify these studies! So, the obvious solution is to dump all the spendy computers, fly with basic instruments, enjoy the scenery, and preserve the gray matter! Fly safe and have fun. Hi My comment was about vario sophistication. My friend has a Nano and a Garmin for navigation. It was also a reflection on my obsessive quest for a better vario. Gilles I'm happy with my old SDI C4 an (I think) even older Borgelt B.40. Both make nice noises of the appropriate type and the B.40 has a really fast response. Conversely, a friend recently installed an S.3 and is less than delighted with its sounds and especially with its lack of a silent band between zero and -1 kts. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | |
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If we take this electronic gadget stuff to the logical conclusion...we will let the computer fly the glider and the "pilot" will just sit there....
They tell us that "driverless automobiles" are just a few years off. Driverless cars will save 30,000 lives per year in the USA...accidents will be nearly non existent...they will reduce fuel usage tremendously....they will allow more cars on a highway at a given time, yet reduce traffic jams. You will always be on time, nobody will get any traffic tickets nor will they have to pay any fines. Computer cars will require nearly zero skill and intelligence to operate! So if you are looking for safety and efficiency in glider flying...eliminate the weak link...the pilot! Cookie On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:08:15 PM UTC-4, Craig R. wrote: ;-) Perhaps we can infer a correlation between the proliferation of electronic gadgets in our cockpits with the dumbing down of glider pilots? There are Standford University studies that indicate that multitasking can lower your IQ or that "people who are regularly bombarded with several streams of electronic information cannot pay attention, recall information, or switch from one job to another as well as those who complete one task at a time". If we take this electronic gadget stuff to the logical conclusion...we will let the computer fly the glider and the "pilot" will just sit there.... They tell us that "driverless automobiles" are just a few years off. Driverless cars will save 30,000 lives per year in the USA...accidents will be nearly non existent...they will reduce fuel usage tremendously....they will allow more cars on a highway at a given time, yet reduce traffic jams. You will always be on time. They will require nearly zero skill and intelligence to operate! Cooie http://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbr...udies-suggest/ RAS posts seem to verify these studies! So, the obvious solution is to dump all the spendy computers, fly with basic instruments, enjoy the scenery, and preserve the gray matter! Fly safe and have fun. |
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