US to attack Saudi Arabia? if not why not?

Tamas Feher wrote:
why the USAF is not attacking Saudi Arabia


Mecca, the holiest of holy muslim cities is lcoated in Saudi Arabia. A
US attack means one billion muslims instantly go jihad -- that is World
War III. In the end there would be no jews and white anglo-saxon
protestants left on the face of Earth.

Remember UBL started his anti-USA campaing merely because the USA
installed ALLIED military bases in Saudi Arabia. In the end the WTC
fell.Get a life and don't set up wars from your couch!


Tamas -

Same song, different verse. Hasn't happened.

There was 'supposed' to be a world-wide uprising of the "Arab Street" when:
- the Allies set up bases in Saudi Arabia before GW I
- when the Coalition invaded Iraq in GW I
- when Coalition troops stayed in Saudi Arabia and other ME countries
after the end of GW I
- when the Coalition II invaded Iraq in GW II
- about every 15 minutes when the Israelis do anything.

Hasn't happened. In fact, the street protests are getting smaller and
smaller.

Other than OBL and his crews, the Arab street seems awfully quiet and
peaceful. Perhaps, as is often overlooked, most Muslims are moderates
who dislike and disagree with their Fundamentalist whackos about as much
as the rest of the world does.

Most recent annual report shows terrorist activity down worldwide again
in 2003 (http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/pgtrpt/2003/31569.htm).

"Eliminate SPAM" wrote in message
...
Tamas Feher wrote:
why the USAF is not attacking Saudi Arabia


Mecca, the holiest of holy muslim cities is lcoated in Saudi Arabia. A
US attack means one billion muslims instantly go jihad -- that is World
War III. In the end there would be no jews and white anglo-saxon
protestants left on the face of Earth.

Remember UBL started his anti-USA campaing merely because the USA
installed ALLIED military bases in Saudi Arabia. In the end the WTC
fell.Get a life and don't set up wars from your couch!


Tamas -

Same song, different verse. Hasn't happened.

There was 'supposed' to be a world-wide uprising of the "Arab Street"
when:
- the Allies set up bases in Saudi Arabia before GW I
- when the Coalition invaded Iraq in GW I
- when Coalition troops stayed in Saudi Arabia and other ME countries
after the end of GW I
- when the Coalition II invaded Iraq in GW II
- about every 15 minutes when the Israelis do anything.

Hasn't happened. In fact, the street protests are getting smaller and
smaller.

Other than OBL and his crews, the Arab street seems awfully quiet and
peaceful. Perhaps, as is often overlooked, most Muslims are moderates
who dislike and disagree with their Fundamentalist whackos about as much
as the rest of the world does.

Most recent annual report shows terrorist activity down worldwide again
in 2003 (http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/pgtrpt/2003/31569.htm).

What an incredible post!

I have read this group and a few others on Usenet since 1997 and thought I
was beyond surprise. But this one did it.

What combination of substances are you taking?

John

John:

What is the point of asking the participants and readers of this newsgoup
to wade through the entire thread to have you "add" [sic] " What
combination of substances are you taking?" at the end of a string of
point-counterpoint?

Are you adding "I disagree, for no particular reason?" to the argument?

O.K., noted.

Steve



"John Mullen" wrote in message
news
"Eliminate SPAM" wrote in message
...
Tamas Feher wrote:
why the USAF is not attacking Saudi Arabia


Mecca, the holiest of holy muslim cities is lcoated in Saudi Arabia. A
US attack means one billion muslims instantly go jihad -- that is
World
War III. In the end there would be no jews and white anglo-saxon
protestants left on the face of Earth.

Remember UBL started his anti-USA campaing merely because the USA
installed ALLIED military bases in Saudi Arabia. In the end the WTC
fell.Get a life and don't set up wars from your couch!


Tamas -

Same song, different verse. Hasn't happened.

There was 'supposed' to be a world-wide uprising of the "Arab Street"
when:
- the Allies set up bases in Saudi Arabia before GW I
- when the Coalition invaded Iraq in GW I
- when Coalition troops stayed in Saudi Arabia and other ME countries
after the end of GW I
- when the Coalition II invaded Iraq in GW II
- about every 15 minutes when the Israelis do anything.

Hasn't happened. In fact, the street protests are getting smaller and
smaller.

Other than OBL and his crews, the Arab street seems awfully quiet and
peaceful. Perhaps, as is often overlooked, most Muslims are moderates
who dislike and disagree with their Fundamentalist whackos about as much
as the rest of the world does.

Most recent annual report shows terrorist activity down worldwide again
in 2003 (http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/pgtrpt/2003/31569.htm).

What an incredible post!

I have read this group and a few others on Usenet since 1997 and thought I
was beyond surprise. But this one did it.

What combination of substances are you taking?

John

"Leslie Swartz" top-posted in message
...
John:

What is the point of asking the participants and readers of this
newsgoup
to wade through the entire thread to have you "add" [sic] " What
combination of substances are you taking?" at the end of a string of
point-counterpoint?

Are you adding "I disagree, for no particular reason?" to the argument?

O.K., noted.

Steve



"John Mullen" wrote in message
news
"Eliminate SPAM" wrote in message
...
Tamas Feher wrote:
why the USAF is not attacking Saudi Arabia


Mecca, the holiest of holy muslim cities is lcoated in Saudi Arabia.
A
US attack means one billion muslims instantly go jihad -- that is
World
War III. In the end there would be no jews and white anglo-saxon
protestants left on the face of Earth.

Remember UBL started his anti-USA campaing merely because the USA
installed ALLIED military bases in Saudi Arabia. In the end the WTC
fell.Get a life and don't set up wars from your couch!


Tamas -

Same song, different verse. Hasn't happened.

There was 'supposed' to be a world-wide uprising of the "Arab Street"
when:
- the Allies set up bases in Saudi Arabia before GW I
- when the Coalition invaded Iraq in GW I
- when Coalition troops stayed in Saudi Arabia and other ME countries
after the end of GW I
- when the Coalition II invaded Iraq in GW II
- about every 15 minutes when the Israelis do anything.

Hasn't happened. In fact, the street protests are getting smaller and
smaller.

Other than OBL and his crews, the Arab street seems awfully quiet and
peaceful. Perhaps, as is often overlooked, most Muslims are moderates
who dislike and disagree with their Fundamentalist whackos about as
much
as the rest of the world does.

Most recent annual report shows terrorist activity down worldwide
again
in 2003 (http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/pgtrpt/2003/31569.htm).

What an incredible post!

I have read this group and a few others on Usenet since 1997 and thought
I
was beyond surprise. But this one did it.

What combination of substances are you taking?

John




Leslie

What is the point of your post? Are you the group's moderator or something?

Would you agree that 'other than OBL and his crew, the Arab street seems
awfully quiet and peaceful' when you think of Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Algeria,
Palestine?

Or would you agree with me that the post was evidence of a, shall-we-say,
very detached world-view?

Don't feel you have to reply unless you have something substantive to say!

John

John Mullen wrote:
"Leslie Swartz" top-posted in message
...
"John Mullen" wrote in message
news
"Eliminate SPAM" wrote in message
...
Tamas Feher wrote:
why the USAF is not attacking Saudi Arabia
Mecca, the holiest of holy muslim cities is lcoated in Saudi Arabia. A
US attack means one billion muslims instantly go jihad -- that is World
War III. In the end there would be no jews and white anglo-saxon
protestants left on the face of Earth.

Tamas -

Same song, different verse. Hasn't happened.

There was 'supposed' to be a world-wide uprising of the "Arab Street"

when:

- the Allies set up bases in Saudi Arabia before GW I
- when the Coalition invaded Iraq in GW I
- when Coalition troops stayed in Saudi Arabia and other ME countries
after the end of GW I
- when the Coalition II invaded Iraq in GW II
- about every 15 minutes when the Israelis do anything.

Hasn't happened. In fact, the street protests are getting smaller and
smaller.

Other than OBL and his crews, the Arab street seems awfully quiet and
peaceful. Perhaps, as is often overlooked, most Muslims are moderates
who dislike and disagree with their Fundamentalist whackos about as much
as the rest of the world does.

Most recent annual report shows terrorist activity down worldwide again
in 2003 (http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/pgtrpt/2003/31569.htm).

What an incredible post!
John


Would you agree that 'other than OBL and his crew, the Arab street seems
awfully quiet and peaceful' when you think of Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Algeria,
Palestine?

Or would you agree with me that the post was evidence of a, shall-we-say,
very detached world-view?

Don't feel you have to reply unless you have something substantive to say!

John

John -

Here's something substantive.

Go back and reread the original post and then make an apology.

I'm not commenting on the opinions of the Arab street, or how they feel,
or any other warm-and-fuzzy reports. Nor am I commenting on localized
problems in Palestine or Iraq. I'm well aware of Arab opinion polls,
both before and after the Abu Ghraib.

The original post was talking about world-wide Jihad where "one billion
muslims instantly go jihad". This has been proposed several times; see
my list of when it was 'supposed to happen'.

I'm commenting on reality. A worldwide jihad hasn't happened. Billions
of Muslims haven't suddenly rushed out and declared jihad. Yes, recent
reports show Al Qaeda membership up - to perhaps 18,000 worldwide. Not
exactly "one billion". You'd think if the Arab street was really so
upset that Al Qaeda membership could of at least hit 100,000 by now. Not
even.

The report on terrorism dropping worldwide is based on the number of
incidents and the number of deaths. Both are hard numbers. Refute them
if you wish to try.

Regardless of opinion and local incidents, worldwide the prophesied and
feared 'worldwide jihad' hasn't happened.

That's not a detached worldview, it's reality.

"Eliminate SPAM" wrote in message
...
John Mullen wrote:
"Leslie Swartz" top-posted in message
...
"John Mullen" wrote in message
news "Eliminate SPAM" wrote in message
...
Tamas Feher wrote:
why the USAF is not attacking Saudi Arabia
Mecca, the holiest of holy muslim cities is lcoated in Saudi Arabia.
A
US attack means one billion muslims instantly go jihad -- that is
World
War III. In the end there would be no jews and white anglo-saxon
protestants left on the face of Earth.

Tamas -

Same song, different verse. Hasn't happened.

There was 'supposed' to be a world-wide uprising of the "Arab Street"

when:

- the Allies set up bases in Saudi Arabia before GW I
- when the Coalition invaded Iraq in GW I
- when Coalition troops stayed in Saudi Arabia and other ME countries
after the end of GW I
- when the Coalition II invaded Iraq in GW II
- about every 15 minutes when the Israelis do anything.

Hasn't happened. In fact, the street protests are getting smaller and
smaller.

Other than OBL and his crews, the Arab street seems awfully quiet and
peaceful. Perhaps, as is often overlooked, most Muslims are moderates
who dislike and disagree with their Fundamentalist whackos about as
much
as the rest of the world does.

Most recent annual report shows terrorist activity down worldwide
again
in 2003 (http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/pgtrpt/2003/31569.htm).

What an incredible post!
John


Would you agree that 'other than OBL and his crew, the Arab street seems
awfully quiet and peaceful' when you think of Iraq, Saudi Arabia,
Algeria,
Palestine?

Or would you agree with me that the post was evidence of a,
shall-we-say,
very detached world-view?

Don't feel you have to reply unless you have something substantive to
say!

John

John -

Here's something substantive.

Go back and reread the original post and then make an apology.

I'm not commenting on the opinions of the Arab street, or how they feel,
or any other warm-and-fuzzy reports. Nor am I commenting on localized
problems in Palestine or Iraq.

ROTFL!!!

Cut to...

Adolf Hitler, Berlin, April 1945. Fuehrer Conference

"Well, mein Fuehrer, apart from these little localised problems around the
outskirts of Berlin with rogue elements of the US and Red Armies, everything
seems to be going very well for the 1000-year Reich. Keep working on those
architectural plans for the new cities we will build when we have won the
war."

I'm well aware of Arab opinion polls,
both before and after the Abu Ghraib.

Then you should know you are not correct in your assertion.

The original post was talking about world-wide Jihad where "one billion
muslims instantly go jihad". This has been proposed several times; see
my list of when it was 'supposed to happen'.

Ah, I see. So anything short of a billion-strong uprising is 'quiet and
peaceful'? Riiiight...

I'm commenting on reality. A worldwide jihad hasn't happened. Billions
of Muslims haven't suddenly rushed out and declared jihad. Yes, recent
reports show Al Qaeda membership up - to perhaps 18,000 worldwide. Not
exactly "one billion". You'd think if the Arab street was really so
upset that Al Qaeda membership could of at least hit 100,000 by now. Not
even.

The report on terrorism dropping worldwide is based on the number of
incidents and the number of deaths. Both are hard numbers. Refute them
if you wish to try.

Show me the numbers and where you plucked them from and I will have a go.

Regardless of opinion and local incidents, worldwide the prophesied and
feared 'worldwide jihad' hasn't happened.

That's not a detached worldview, it's reality.


It certainly is *a* reality. Just not the same one the rest of us live in!

John (no apology, btw!)

John -

No need to apologize anymore - you just lost the argument yourself. As
per newsgroups rules, the first person to have such weak support for
their side as to have to stoop so low to invoke Hitler loses the entire
thread.

BTW, the citation for the numbers was in my original post - go look it
up yourself.

"Eliminate SPAM" wrote in message
...
John -

No need to apologize anymore - you just lost the argument yourself. As
per newsgroups rules, the first person to have such weak support for
their side as to have to stoop so low to invoke Hitler loses the entire
thread.

Pah! You got me on a technicality!

As you say, this automatically renders the tendentious bull**** you came
away with utterly correct. Ah well.

BTW, the citation for the numbers was in my original post - go look it
up yourself.


I shall.

J

"Eliminate SPAM" wrote in message
...
Tamas Feher wrote:
why the USAF is not attacking Saudi Arabia


Mecca, the holiest of holy muslim cities is lcoated in Saudi Arabia. A
US attack means one billion muslims instantly go jihad -- that is World
War III. In the end there would be no jews and white anglo-saxon
protestants left on the face of Earth.

Remember UBL started his anti-USA campaing merely because the USA
installed ALLIED military bases in Saudi Arabia. In the end the WTC
fell.Get a life and don't set up wars from your couch!


Tamas -

Same song, different verse. Hasn't happened.

There was 'supposed' to be a world-wide uprising of the "Arab Street"
when:
- the Allies set up bases in Saudi Arabia before GW I
- when the Coalition invaded Iraq in GW I
- when Coalition troops stayed in Saudi Arabia and other ME countries
after the end of GW I
- when the Coalition II invaded Iraq in GW II
- about every 15 minutes when the Israelis do anything.

Hasn't happened. In fact, the street protests are getting smaller and
smaller.

Other than OBL and his crews, the Arab street seems awfully quiet and
peaceful. Perhaps, as is often overlooked, most Muslims are moderates
who dislike and disagree with their Fundamentalist whackos about as much
as the rest of the world does.

Most recent annual report shows terrorist activity down worldwide again
in 2003 (http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/pgtrpt/2003/31569.htm).


They don't count the war in Iraq? The intifada in Palestine?

Hmm.

Great 'facts'

John

"Eliminate SPAM" wrote in message
...
Tamas Feher wrote:
why the USAF is not attacking Saudi Arabia


Mecca, the holiest of holy muslim cities is lcoated in Saudi Arabia. A
US attack means one billion muslims instantly go jihad -- that is World
War III. In the end there would be no jews and white anglo-saxon
protestants left on the face of Earth.

Remember UBL started his anti-USA campaing merely because the USA
installed ALLIED military bases in Saudi Arabia. In the end the WTC
fell.Get a life and don't set up wars from your couch!


Tamas -

Same song, different verse. Hasn't happened.

There was 'supposed' to be a world-wide uprising of the "Arab Street"
when:
- the Allies set up bases in Saudi Arabia before GW I
- when the Coalition invaded Iraq in GW I
- when Coalition troops stayed in Saudi Arabia and other ME countries
after the end of GW I
- when the Coalition II invaded Iraq in GW II
- about every 15 minutes when the Israelis do anything.

Hasn't happened. In fact, the street protests are getting smaller and
smaller.

Other than OBL and his crews, the Arab street seems awfully quiet and
peaceful. Perhaps, as is often overlooked, most Muslims are moderates
who dislike and disagree with their Fundamentalist whackos about as much
as the rest of the world does.

Most recent annual report shows terrorist activity down worldwide again
in 2003 (http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/pgtrpt/2003/31569.htm).



Now that this has been admitted to be false, I invite you to apologise for
your mistake.

John