What are your thoughts about the Parallel Glider Race

"Since they had the same energy after the release..."

Only if they released at precisely the same altitude and speed and had
the same mass.

"Both gliders shall turn the same turn-points but at each turn-point
glider WHISKY shall turn to the west and glider ECHO shall turn to the
east..."

But each glider will be flying in different air after the turn. Whomever
gets a rising bubble will win the race. Why not just flip a coin and
leave the gliders in the trailers? Oh yeah - this is for the spectacle,
not the competition.

And the above "rules" are only wishes to make the "competition" look
fair. Or is this supposed to be more like flat track or figure-eight
racing where the audience is there for the crashes?

....And winter has not even begun. 8-)

On 11/8/2015 2:58 AM, wrote:
Le vendredi 6 novembre 2015 01:19:24 UTC+1, Sean Fidler a écrit :
Rules just published he https://t.co/ftsqzaruG2

Sean
7T
Per the rules:

"6.2 Start
Both gliders shall cross the start line in the same right hand and left hand positions in which they released. Since they had the same energy after the release, there will be no start altitude limit and the start speed shall only be limited to the Vne (see para 6.5) After crossing the start line both gliders shall fly directly towards the first turn-point of the task.
6.3 Turn-points
Both gliders shall turn the same turn-points but at each turn-point glider WHISKY shall turn to the west and glider ECHO shall turn to the east. Non-compliance shall be penalized (disqualification for the race). Missing a turn-point shall also be penalized (disqualification for the race)."

If I understand the rules correctly, the gliders are not required to remain on their respective sides of the center line after the start. This means that rounding the turn points in opposite directions, as per the rules, could very well result in head-on collisions...

--
Dan, 5J

On Sunday, November 8, 2015 at 10:20:02 AM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
"Since they had the same energy after the release..."



Only if they released at precisely the same
altitude and speed and had the same mass.



"Both gliders shall turn the same turn-points but at each turn-point
glider WHISKY shall turn to the west and glider ECHO shall turn to
the east..."



But each glider will be flying in different air after the turn.*
Whomever gets a rising bubble will win the race.* Why not just
flip a coin and leave the gliders in the trailers?* Oh yeah - this
is for the spectacle, not the competition.



And the above "rules" are only wishes to make the "competition"
look fair.* Or is this supposed to be more like flat track or
figure-eight racing where the audience is there for the crashes?



...And winter has not even begun.*
8-)




On 11/8/2015 2:58 AM,
wrote:



Le vendredi 6 novembre 2015 01:19:24 UTC+1, Sean Fidler a écrit*:


Rules just published he https://t.co/ftsqzaruG2

Sean
7T


Per the rules:

"6.2 Start
Both gliders shall cross the start line in the same right hand and left hand positions in which they released. Since they had the same energy after the release, there will be no start altitude limit and the start speed shall only be limited to the Vne (see para 6.5) After crossing the start line both gliders shall fly directly towards the first turn-point of the task.
6.3 Turn-points
Both gliders shall turn the same turn-points but at each turn-point glider WHISKY shall turn to the west and glider ECHO shall turn to the east. Non-compliance shall be penalized (disqualification for the race). Missing a turn-point shall also be penalized (disqualification for the race)."

If I understand the rules correctly, the gliders are not required to remain on their respective sides of the center line after the start. This means that rounding the turn points in opposite directions, as per the rules, could very well result in head-on collisions...





--

Dan, 5J

Dan, what do you expect from a scheme that was thought up by some marketing idiots who likely have never been in a glider race. As long as they get clicks on their videos later on, none of it really matters.

I guess you're right, Herb.

Maybe there will be a new "reality" series on Discovery channel. You
know, where bearded, tattooed, "experts" will cuss and spit through most
of the episode while head-banger guitars wail in the background and the
incessant "beeping out" of the curse words will drive us all to drink.
Yep, that's probably it. We should probably come up with a suitable
title for the show. How about:

Gel-Coat Knights
Airport Bums
Carbon Clods
Rat Racers
Moriarty Glider Sharks
Overspeedin'

C'mon, Guys. Let's have a contest for the best name for the show. We
can all start from our couches or desks so it should be an even start.
Maybe the desk jockeys have an advantage due to their better posture but
the couch guys have a better understanding of the seating in a glider
cockpit.

On 11/9/2015 8:02 AM, wrote:
On Sunday, November 8, 2015 at 10:20:02 AM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
"Since they had the same energy after the release..."



Only if they released at precisely the same
altitude and speed and had the same mass.



"Both gliders shall turn the same turn-points but at each turn-point
glider WHISKY shall turn to the west and glider ECHO shall turn to
the east..."



But each glider will be flying in different air after the turn.
Whomever gets a rising bubble will win the race. Why not just
flip a coin and leave the gliders in the trailers? Oh yeah - this
is for the spectacle, not the competition.



And the above "rules" are only wishes to make the "competition"
look fair. Or is this supposed to be more like flat track or
figure-eight racing where the audience is there for the crashes?



...And winter has not even begun.
8-)




On 11/8/2015 2:58 AM,
wrote:



Le vendredi 6 novembre 2015 01:19:24 UTC+1, Sean Fidler a écrit :


Rules just published he https://t.co/ftsqzaruG2

Sean
7T


Per the rules:

"6.2 Start
Both gliders shall cross the start line in the same right hand and left hand positions in which they released. Since they had the same energy after the release, there will be no start altitude limit and the start speed shall only be limited to the Vne (see para 6.5) After crossing the start line both gliders shall fly directly towards the first turn-point of the task.
6.3 Turn-points
Both gliders shall turn the same turn-points but at each turn-point glider WHISKY shall turn to the west and glider ECHO shall turn to the east. Non-compliance shall be penalized (disqualification for the race). Missing a turn-point shall also be penalized (disqualification for the race)."

If I understand the rules correctly, the gliders are not required to remain on their respective sides of the center line after the start. This means that rounding the turn points in opposite directions, as per the rules, could very well result in head-on collisions...





--

Dan, 5J
Dan, what do you expect from a scheme that was thought up by some marketing idiots who likely have never been in a glider race. As long as they get clicks on their videos later on, none of it really matters.

--
Dan, 5J

On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 7:16:25 PM UTC-5, Tony wrote:
Me too!

wanna have a sled ride race with me tony?

On Sunday, November 8, 2015 at 11:20:02 AM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
"Since they had the same energy after the release..."



Only if they released at precisely the same
altitude and speed and had the same mass.



"Both gliders shall turn the same turn-points but at each turn-point
glider WHISKY shall turn to the west and glider ECHO shall turn to
the east..."



But each glider will be flying in different air after the turn.*
Whomever gets a rising bubble will win the race.* Why not just
flip a coin and leave the gliders in the trailers?* Oh yeah - this
is for the spectacle, not the competition.



And the above "rules" are only wishes to make the "competition"
look fair.* Or is this supposed to be more like flat track or
figure-eight racing where the audience is there for the crashes?



...And winter has not even begun.*
8-)




On 11/8/2015 2:58 AM,
wrote:



Le vendredi 6 novembre 2015 01:19:24 UTC+1, Sean Fidler a écrit*:


Rules just published he https://t.co/ftsqzaruG2

Sean
7T


Per the rules:

"6.2 Start
Both gliders shall cross the start line in the same right hand and left hand positions in which they released. Since they had the same energy after the release, there will be no start altitude limit and the start speed shall only be limited to the Vne (see para 6.5) After crossing the start line both gliders shall fly directly towards the first turn-point of the task.
6.3 Turn-points
Both gliders shall turn the same turn-points but at each turn-point glider WHISKY shall turn to the west and glider ECHO shall turn to the east. Non-compliance shall be penalized (disqualification for the race). Missing a turn-point shall also be penalized (disqualification for the race)."

If I understand the rules correctly, the gliders are not required to remain on their respective sides of the center line after the start. This means that rounding the turn points in opposite directions, as per the rules, could very well result in head-on collisions...





--

Dan, 5J

lets not forget that someone will have a headwind/tailwind component that the other will not....

glider people.

Sure but let's fly 2-33s. More surface area for sponsors

Herb,

My understanding is the Roland Stuck developed the parallel glider race for the world air games. He's been described to me as the Father of the Sailplane Grand Prix. I met him at the 13.5m WGC. He's no idiot.