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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Tudor
The Avro Type 688 Tudor was a British piston-engined airliner based on Avro's four-engine Lincoln bomber, itself a descendant of the famous Lancaster heavy bomber, and was Britain's first pressurised airliner. Customers saw the aircraft as little more than a pressurised DC-4 Skymaster, and few orders were forthcoming, important customers preferring to buy US aircraft. The tailwheel undercarriage layout was also dated and a disadvantage. Avro began work on the Type 688 Tudor in 1943, following Specification 29/43 for a commercial adaptation of the Lancaster IV bomber, which was later renamed Lincoln. The specification was based on recommendations of the Brabazon Committee, which issued specifications for nine types of commercial aircraft for postwar use. Avro first proposed to build the Avro 687 (Avro XX), which was a Lincoln bomber with a new circular section pressurized fuselage and a large single fin and rudder in place of the predecessor's double ones. During the design stage, the idea of a simple conversion was abandoned and the Avro 688 was designed, which retained the four Rolls-Royce Merlin engines. It was designed by Roy Chadwick who, due to wartime restrictions, could not design a completely new aircraft, but had to use existing parts, tools and jigs. Using the Lincoln's wing, Chadwick, who had worked on the Lancaster, designed the Tudor to incorporate a new pressurized fuselage of circular cross-section, with a useful load of 3,765 lb (1,705 kg) and a range of 3,975 mi (6,400 km). The Tudor was a low-wing cantilever monoplane with four engines, a single fin and rudder and a retractable tailwheel undercarriage (in its original configurations). The circular cross-section fuselage was an all-metal semi-monocoque structure, of 10 ft (3.0 m) diameter, fitted with kapok-filled inner and outer skins above floor level. The hydraulically operated main-wheel units were similar to those of the Lancaster, had single Dunlop wheels and retracted rearward into the inboard engine nacelles. The twin tailwheels retracted rearward into the fuselage and were enclosed by twin longitudinal doors. Role Airliner Manufacturer Avro Designer Roy Chadwick First flight 14 June 1945 Primary users B.S.A.A BOAC Produced 1945–1949 Number built 38 Developed from Avro Lincoln Developed into Avro Ashton Tudor I The Tudor I was intended for use on the North Atlantic route. At the time, the United States had the Douglas DC-4 and Lockheed Constellation, which could both carry more passengers than the Tudor's 12, and also weighed less than the Tudor's weight of 70,000 lb (32,000 kg). The Tudor's tailwheel layout was also a drawback. Despite this, the Ministry of Supply ordered 14 Tudor Is for BOAC, and increased the production order to 20 in April 1945. The Tudor I suffered from a number of stability problems, which included longitudinal and directional instability. The problem was handed over to the Royal Aircraft Establishment at RAE Farnborough, where an extensive programme of testing was carried out, the test pilot being Eric Brown. Following the RAE's recommendations, a larger tailplane was fitted, and the original finely curved fin and rudder were replaced by larger vertical surfaces. BOAC added to the delays by requesting more than 340 modifications, and finally rejected the Tudor I on 11 April 1947, considering it incapable of North Atlantic operations. It had been intended that 12 Tudors would be built in Australia for military transport, but this plan was abandoned. Twelve Tudor Is were built, of which three were scrapped, while others were variously converted to Tudor IVB and Tudor Freighter Is. Tudor IV To meet a BSAA requirement, some Tudor Is were lengthened by 5 ft 9 in (1.75 m), powered by 1,770 hp (1,320 kW) Rolls-Royce Merlin 621s and 1,760 hp (1,310 kW) Rolls-Royce Merlin 623s. With 32 seats and no flight engineer position, these were known as Tudor IVs, and when fitted with a flight engineer's position and 28 seats, as Tudor IVBs. BSAA's new flagships received mixed reviews from pilots. Some greeted it with enthusiasm, such as Captain Geoffrey Womersley, who described it as "the best civil airliner flying." Others rejected it as an unsound design. BSAA's chief pilot and manager of operations, Gordon Store, was unimpressed: "The Tudor was built like a battleship. It was noisy, I had no confidence in its engines and its systems were hopeless. The Americans were fifty years ahead of us in systems engineering. All the hydraulics, the air conditioning equipment and the recircling [sic] fans were crammed together underneath the floor without any thought. There were fuel-burning heaters that would never work; we had the floorboards up in flight again and again. Specifications (Avro 688 Tudor 1) General characteristics Crew: 5 (two pilots, flight engineer, radio operator, navigator) Capacity: 24 passengers Length: 79 ft 6 in (24.23 m) Wingspan: 120 ft 0 in (36.58 m) Height: 22 ft 0 in (6.71 m) Wing area: 1,421 ft² (132 m²) Loaded weight: 66,000 lb (30,000 kg) Max. takeoff weight: 76,000 lb (34,500 kg) Powerplant: 4 × Rolls-Royce Merlin 100 12-cylinder V12 engines, 1,770 hp (1,320 kW) each Performance Maximum speed: 320 mph (512 km/h) at 8,000 ft (2,440 m) Cruise speed: 283 mph (453 km/h) at 12,000 ft (3,660 m) Range: 3,630 mi (5,840 km) Service ceiling: 30,100 ft (9,180 m) Rate of climb: 990 ft/min (5 m/s) Wing loading: 53.5 lb/ft² (261 kg/m²) * |
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"Miloch" wrote in message news
![]() with a useful load of 3,765 lb (1,705 kg) Shouldn't that be 37,650 lbs.? |
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"Miloch" wrote in message news ![]() with a useful load of 3,765 lb (1,705 kg) Shouldn't that be 37,650 lbs.? 15 1/2 tons? Doubt it. * |
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In article , Byker says... "Miloch" wrote in message news ![]() with a useful load of 3,765 lb (1,705 kg) Shouldn't that be 37,650 lbs.? 15 1/2 tons? Doubt it. * For Byker: I think the key description is from the BOAC captain "The Tudor was built like a battleship. It was noisy, I had no confidence in its engines and its systems were hopeless. The Americans were fifty years ahead of us in systems engineering." * |
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"Miloch" wrote in message news
![]() In article , Byker says... "Miloch" wrote in message news ![]() with a useful load of 3,765 lb (1,705 kg) Shouldn't that be 37,650 lbs.? 15 1/2 tons? Doubt it. I don't: Tudor I: Tare weight (lbs) - 47,960 All-up weight (lbs) - 71,000 Useful load: 23,040 lbs. Tudor V Tare weight (lbs) - 46,300 All-up weight (lbs) - 80,000 Useful load: 33,700 lbs. http://www.flywiththestars.co.uk/Air...udor_specs.htm "As then envisaged, the Tudor was to be a modification of the Lancaster IV (later the Lincoln) with a new pressurized fuselage to carry a load of 1,705kg over 6,400km." That must've been the "useful load" for crossing the Atlantic: http://www.aviastar.org/air/england/avro_tudor.php Besides, 3,765 lbs is about the useful load of: Mitsubishi MU-2J Cessna Citation M2 Britten-Norman Trislander Enough for 10 pax and 600 lbs. fuel Also, the Tudor's competitor, the DC-4, had an empty weight of 43,300 lb (19,640 kg) and a MTOW of 73,000 lb (33,100 kg) There's your fifteen tons... * |
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