Need help testing new SN10 firmware

I hate all of this disparaging garbage about Windows, IE, etc. If you don't like the OS or the browser fine, don't use them, but don't go telling the world that they don't/won't work to download .ndb off the the Exchange. As a proof point I just pulled down several .ndb files off the the Exchange using both IE 11 and Edge on Win 10 - both browsers worked flawlessly and downloaded all of the files with no problems whatsoever.

On Saturday, June 22, 2019 at 9:56:43 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 8:34:31 PM UTC-4, wrote:
I was just asking how to get a ndb file from wwte. I'm sure you use many. If I can't get a file I can't use sn10

the Internet Explorer and Windows don't get along with the SN10 NDB files
This is a Quote from John Leibacher. "This has unfortunately caused considerable grief for a number of users"
John has some suggestions on how to get around the problem.
My fix was to simply do the SN10 file download on my android phone, problem solved.
So in the future if someone ask for help on this problem I would simply say use your Android smart phone instead of your windows pc.
Thanks for the help :-(
Glen

On Saturday, June 22, 2019 at 7:32:54 PM UTC-7, wrote:
I hate all of this disparaging garbage about Windows, IE, etc.

MICROSOFT'S SECURITY BOSS has told punters that its venerable browser, Internet Explorer, isn't actually a browser in a bout of Magrittian surrealism.

Chris Jackson told the world in a blog post that Internet Explorer is, in fact, a 'compatibility solution' and shouldn't be used as a daily driver by anyone who doesn't need to.

https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer...-not-a-browser

And what does any of that have to do with the FACT that both IE and Edge on Win 10 DO actually work to download the files we're discussing, contrary to the FUD that was previously posted?

On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 10:15:08 AM UTC-5, 5Z wrote:
On Saturday, June 22, 2019 at 7:32:54 PM UTC-7, wrote:
I hate all of this disparaging garbage about Windows, IE, etc.

MICROSOFT'S SECURITY BOSS has told punters that its venerable browser, Internet Explorer, isn't actually a browser in a bout of Magrittian surrealism.

Chris Jackson told the world in a blog post that Internet Explorer is, in fact, a 'compatibility solution' and shouldn't be used as a daily driver by anyone who doesn't need to.

https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer...-not-a-browser

On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 11:18:36 AM UTC-4, wrote:
IE and Edge on Win 10 DO actually work to download the files we're
discussing, contrary to the FUD that was previously posted?

Many, Many, Many users are still using older versions.
Many versions append ".TXT." to the filename on download.
It is beyond the understanding/ability of many Windows user to remove the ".TXT",
hence the recommendation to use a modern browser...

If you like, we can refer support questions to you ;-)

OK, fair enough, of course there are still dinosaurs left running really old stuff. Not sure I'd agree with saying that number is, "Many, Many, Many users..." though.

According to Statista global market share statistics, as of Feb, 2019 IE 11 has 2.19%, Edge 1.52% and the lowest published share is Firefox 64.0 at 0.54% so the really old IE versions must be somewhere less than 1/2 of 1%. Of course, Chrome now owns the browser market with 57.66%. Safari is the only other browser with more than 2.7% share.

OK, hows that for some thread drift!

On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 10:26:29 AM UTC-5, Dave Nadler wrote:
On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 11:18:36 AM UTC-4, wrote:
IE and Edge on Win 10 DO actually work to download the files we're
discussing, contrary to the FUD that was previously posted?

Many, Many, Many users are still using older versions.
Many versions append ".TXT." to the filename on download.
It is beyond the understanding/ability of many Windows user to remove the ".TXT",
hence the recommendation to use a modern browser...

If you like, we can refer support questions to you ;-)

On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 11:56:31 AM UTC-4, wrote:
Not sure I'd agree with saying that number is, "Many, Many, Many users..."

Share of IE on desktops is still ~10%:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_...f_web_browsers
That's a LOT of users.

Well, that Wikipedia number doesn't show what version of IE is being run. Although I can't find a desktop only statistic, my guess is that most desktop Windows users are running IE11, which does not exhibit the problem you described. I'll bet that the number of users on IE9 or lower is still well below 1%. Not sure where the .txt issue you described went away but it doesn't exist in 10 or 11.



On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 11:06:59 AM UTC-5, Dave Nadler wrote:
On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 11:56:31 AM UTC-4, wrote:
Not sure I'd agree with saying that number is, "Many, Many, Many users...."

Share of IE on desktops is still ~10%:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_...f_web_browsers
That's a LOT of users.

On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 11:26:29 AM UTC-4, Dave Nadler wrote:
On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 11:18:36 AM UTC-4, wrote:
IE and Edge on Win 10 DO actually work to download the files we're
discussing, contrary to the FUD that was previously posted?

Many, Many, Many users are still using older versions.
Many versions append ".TXT." to the filename on download.
It is beyond the understanding/ability of many Windows user to remove the ".TXT",
hence the recommendation to use a modern browser...

If you like, we can refer support questions to you ;-)

I would recommend that all users learn to handle simple things like fixing up the file suffix. It's basic computer literacy. If you can fly a glider and use a glide computer you can learn that. And it will help you in other parts of your modern life, since there are plenty of web sites that offer files with mangled suffixes. HTML masquerading as DOC or XLS, for example..