Talk About A Rude Company,

Talk to Marv or Delcy at Gorge Winds Aviation in Troutdale. 503.665.2823
I did my instrument ground and practical work through them and passed both
the written and the checkride on the first try in October.

Heck, you could just fly your ol' hoss across the river. If it's not IFR
equipped, they train in a 180hp Cessna 172 that's a really nice plane.
Rates are $80/hr for the airplane and $35/hr for the instructor, but
instruction time comes right off the Hobbes. They do weekend IFR written
prep courses three or four times a year and there's a testing facility
onsite.

Delcy is an Air Force Academy graduate and an officer in the US Air Force
Reserve, and Marv, the FBO owner, is a retired deputy sheriff, former mayor
and retired career Marine. -Really- good people.

Troutdale is a great airport and most of the practice work is out of
Battleground VOR to Scapoose, or Aurora, Hillsboro and McMinnville.

-gattman


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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Almarz" wrote in message
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In any event, if you don't like ANYTHING about a place where you're
plunking your money down, take it elsewhere! Screw the folks that are
turning it around and blaming it on you. It's all about the CUSTOMER.
When these slobs realize that, they'll be better off. Until then, let
them bitch and complain about how they can't make a living.


Good flight instructors are as picky about their students as good
students
are picky of their flight instructors. If a student gives me the creeps,
is
rude, or has an attitude problem, he can take his business elsewhere.



I agree but its my money I am spending and it had to be earned with hard
work! I have already been shafted once on my private training and had to
go
finish at another flight school witch ended up costing me more money than
I
needed to spend. I guess the education I recived from that experience was
worth the extra money spent. I will not make them mistakes again!

Some flight instructor or fbo is going to get a large chunk of
http://www.warflying.net/money.jpg and its not going to be someone that
don't want to work, is under qualified or a company I feel is not going to
give what they agreed upon. Someone like me that want to fly 3 more hours
per day 5 times a week needs an instructor around that can accommodate my
schedule. I want to make dame sure an instructor will show up on time
also.
The instructor must also have the experience and the knowledge that I seek
to learn from. Being a flight instructor for a living makes you a
business.

I could see flight instructors doing it on the side with little free time
picking and chousing their students but I don't want to here one complaint
on how they are not making any money! If they work an FBO and the FBO
brings
them students then they should not be so picky until they at leased fly
with
the student. Not every one is perfect, not every one learns the material
int
the same way. That is why their are many flight instructors out there.

My first primarry flight instructor was a good instructor but had a bit of
an attitude when you did something wrong and was not calm he scared me a
little.

My second primarry flight instructor was an Excellent Flight instructor
but
worked for a FBO that was not stable and the owners were a bunch of
crooks.
Wish he did not give up flight instruction for the airlines or we would
not
be having this conversation I would have paid him $50.00 or more an hour
to
be able to have him as my instructor for my instrument rating. He did not
hold any of his knowledge or skills back and was a straight forward and
adapted to my learning style.

I have flown with a few other flight instructors, most were not very
professional and will not adapt to my learning style so I am seeking out
other areas to meet my instruction needs.