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"Bob Gardner" wrote in message news:KAIMb.37603$8H.86299@attbi_s03...
No holds barred at an uncontrolled airport...but we all have to get along together. If the preponderance of the traffic was using the short, my feeling is that you should have joined them or gone somewhere else. Student pilots (and I have to assume one or two in the pattern) have enough to be concerned about without someone doing the unexpected. This applies to the CFI flying with the student as well....although this is a learning experience: "Look at that guy! What he is doing is legal, but not smart. Keep your eyes on a swivel and expect the unexpected!!!" Well, I dunno what you consider "preponderance". When I arrived, there was one chap who announced for the other runway, no other observed traffic. He said "full stop", which led me to think he was landing and tieing down and it didn't make much difference. I realized after he took off again, he was just trying to differentiate from "touch and go", and I'm not sure what he could have said which would have made his intention to land and taxi back for continued pattern work clear. "full stop, continued pattern work" might have done it. A second airplane which showed up said the same thing "full stop" which again, led me to think he was landing and taxiing to his hangar, not planning to taxi back and do pattern work. After it was clear what they were doing and a third airplane called in, I called them a preponderance ![]() Frankly Bob and meaning no disrespect, if you're telling your students this is unexpected or "not smart", you might be doing them a disservice IMHO. I can remember my initial CFIs saying similar things, and it led me to have a little "attitide" about what people "ought" to do which later, more experienced CFIs squelched, pointing out there are sometimes good reasons. I used to be based at that airport, and twins regularly use the longer runway while singles are on the shorter runway, because it gives them more options -- I'm not a multi pilot, but I read about "balanced runway length" and yadda yadda, so I assume most multi pilots think it's smart to use a 3500 ft runway instead of a 2000 ft runway when it's available. OTOH, if there's a kicking crosswind, is it smart for a Piper pilot to just join the pattern with the long runway at a wind level maybe he's not comfortable with, or to space himself properly and land into the wind? I think one could argue the latter as "smart". At my home airport, many of the antiques and taildraggers prefer to land on grass. So they'll use the grass runway even if the wind favors the paved or is "6 of one half a dozen of the other". I'm not a taildragger pilot either, but I assume some taildragger pilots would think it's smart to land on grass if there's an Xwind either way and the pilot/plane is more comfortable on grass. In any case, it's common enough that I think it has to be considered "expected". Sydney |
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