Self fly hire in the US

"Sylvain" wrote in message
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"Steve Foley" wrote in message
You may not have a US certificate anymore, you'll need to check.

A friend of mine had a US certificate based (PP-ASEL) on a UK PPL. He
made
an appointment for an IFR checkride and was told that all certs based on
foreign licenses had been revoked. He had to take the PP and IR
checkride
the same day.

someone was pulling your friend's leg.

I happen to have both, i.e., a private certificate established on the
basis of a foreign licence (under 14 CFR 61.75), and a commercial
certificate I later earned here (in California) -- having both is
possible
because I obtained the FAA commercial certificate *after* getting the
private certificate under 61.75 and it contains a glider rating that I do
not have on my commercial certificate (yet! :-); the specifics are
spelled out in 14 CFR 61.75(b)(3) (check out how it is worded!), as well
as the "Pilot Examiner's Handbook", Order 8710.3C, paragraph 53.H.2,
pp.5-16);

anyway, certificates issued under 61.75 have not, to my knowledge,
been revoked (unless your friend benefits from special considerations
so to speak);

The only way they will have been revoked is if the licence number of the
foreign licence has changed. The 61.75 certificate refers to the foreign
certificate.
Many European licence numbers including the UK have changed as a result of
the JAA changes. If the number has changed then the FAA 61.75 needs to be re
issued. To do this, then one has to go through the verification process.

http://www.faa.gov/avr/afs/flightinstruction/index.cfm

There is a FAA FAQ which is very clear on this matter extract below:

QUESTION: My question involves whether the procedures set forth in Notice
8700.15 apply to this German citizen who currently holds a § 61.75 private
pilot certificate that lists the license number of his old German pilot
license. His new German pilot license has a different number. The person
wants to correct his § 61.75 private pilot certificate and have it reissued
to reflect the license number of his new German pilot license. Do the
application requirements and procedures set forth in Notice 8700.15 apply?



ANSWER: Ref. § 61.75(a) and (b)(2) and FAA Notice 8700.15, Page 10,
paragraph 4. S(1); Yes, the application requirements and procedures set
forth in FAA Notice 8700.15 apply even if the application is for a
re-issuance of a § 61.75 private pilot certificate on account of a numbering
change in the person's foreign pilot license. The basis for my answer is
predicated on paragraph 4. S(1) in FAA Notice 8700.15 where it states ". .
..A person who is applying for a U.S. pilot certificate/rating on the basis
of a foreign license must be informed that he or she should try to pre-apply
for that pilot certificate at least 60 days before arriving at the
designated FAA FSDO where the applicant expects to receive the U.S. pilot
certificate . . ."



Additionally, paragraph 3 ("Applicability") in FAA Notice 8700.15
establishes that FAA Notice 8700.15 applies to the issuance of ". . . U.S.
pilot certificates and ratings to persons who apply on the basis of their
foreign pilot licenses . . ."



So, in effect, the person ". . . is applying for a U.S. pilot
certificate/ratings on the basis of a foreign license . . ." [i.e.,
paragraph 4. S(1) in FAA Notice 8700.15] when the person makes application
for a U.S. pilot certificate on account of a numbering change in his/her
foreign pilot license.



In a review of this question with Emily White, FAA Flight Standards'
International Liaison Staff, AFS-50, she further verified the answer as she
stated:



"This is how we have been treating the issuance of § 61.75 pilot
certificates before the need to verify the authenticity of foreign pilot
licenses. With the introduction of JAR-FCL in Europe, some of the countries
had to issue new pilot license numbers to their airmen. In those cases, we
and the foreign civil aviation authority have determined it is a new
underlying foreign pilot license and thus the § 61.75 pilot certificate on
which the foreign pilot license was based was no longer valid. Thus, they
need to get a new § 61.75 pilot certificate based on their "new" foreign
pilot license."

{Q&A-522}


The same group of FAQs make it clear that if you want to add a rating to a
61.75 certificate you must present the valid verification letter to the DPE.
If there is no valid verification letter, then the only route is to get an
unrestricted private certificate and comply with the Part 61 requirements.
The likelihood is that most JAA licences do (night flying the only problem)
and then add the instrument certificate. Ie doing boths tests in short
order.

Question: Do the procedures set forth in FAA Notice 8700.15 apply to persons
who are applying for a U.S. pilot certificate/rating(s) and are not applying
on the basis of their foreign pilot license?



Answer: No, The procedures set forth in FAA Notice 8700.15 do not apply to
a person who is applying for a U.S. pilot certificate/rating(s) and is not
applying on the basis of their foreign pilot license. A person who is
applying for a U.S. pilot certificate/rating(s) on the basis of meeting the
appropriate Part 61 certification requirements and is not using their
foreign pilot license as the basis for the application then that person need
not comply with the procedures set forth in FAA Notice 8700.15. However,
this answer may be subject to change in the future because the
Transportation Security Agency is constantly requiring the FAA to make
changes on the basis of National security. At this time there are several
proposals under consideration that may require the FAA to change its
application and certification process for non-U.S. citizens. The United
States is at war and have been ever since September 11, 2001, so we may need
to revise our policies and procedures in the future in the interest of
National security. If there needs to be a change to our application and
certification process for non-U.S. citizens, the Airmen Certification
Branch, AFS-760 and the Certification Branch, AFS-840 are the responsible
offices for notifying you.



Hope this is helpful for the full FAQ I suggest you go he



http://www.faa.gov/AVR/AFS/AFS800/DOCS/pt61FAQ.doc