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Many descriptions have been posted here in several threads on spinning
over the last couple of weeks and I have found all of them to be fascinating. I've been prompted to think through again my own understanding of the stall and the spin in gliders. One description that has been strongly asserted in several threads is that there is a difference in angle of attack on the two wings on an aircraft in a descending turn AND that the difference in AOA is due to the slower horizontal speed of the inside wing as it traverses a shorter circle than does the outside wing in the descending turn. The slower speed of the inside wing thus coinsides with a higher AOA on the inside wing than is experienced by the outside wing. This of course has implications for which wing may reach stall AOA first. I am only a pilot and have no training in aerodynamics whatsoever. For what it's worth (not much probably), I find the above explanation of the cause of different AOA on the left and right wings of an aircraft in a descending turn to be easily understandable and very likely accurate, but incomplete. Many years ago I read in Sammy Mason's book Stalls, Spins and Safety, an additional description of the AOA on the wings of an aircraft in ascending and descending turns. I find that his description is persuasive and illunimating and contributes to a more complete understanding of the stall and spin. Here is a short quote from Sammy Mason's book: "During a level, coordinated turn, once the bank is established, the airplane will continue to turn about the yaw axis and pitch upward about the pitch axis. It will not be rolling about the roll axis. When a stall is encountered in a level turn, the reaction will normally be very little different than during a wings-level stall.." "During a descending turn, or spiral, in addition to pitch and yaw, the airplane will be rolling about the roll axis in the direction of the turn. As the airplane rolls, it induces an upflow of air into the descending wing. This results in the descending wing having the greatest angle of attack. If a stall is encountered, the airplane will likely roll into the turn." pp.40-41. Sammy Mason goes on to describe the opposite differences in AOA on the two wings of an aircraft in an ascending turn. In a descending turn are both wings going down? Of course they are, relative to an outside frame of reference and assuming the rate of aircraft descent is greater than the rate of roll (or however one describes the rate at which wings are going around in a roll). From the frame of reference of the aircraft are the two wings proceeding in opposite rotational directions? Sammy Mason's description of the aircraft rolling about its roll axis in a descending turn describes just such a difference -- and its contribution to the differing AOA on the two wings. This suggests that the difference in AOA on the two wings is not due only to their differences in horizontal speed in their differing size circles. Your milage may vary, of course, and each pilot likely benefits from some image of what is happening to an aircraft in a stall and spin. In my view, Sammy Mason's descriptions add additional insights for me to the nature of stalls and spins. Sammy Mason's flying career is described in the book as having begun in the 1930's, and included WWII, and then working with C.L."Kelly" Johnson of the Lockheed "Skunkworks". He was a jet aircraft test pilot for Lockheed and became Lockheed's authority on stall/spin testing. |
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