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If a goal of the World Class is low cost gliders
I thought that this was the goal of the club class. So if the cost is the deciding factor, fly club class. A 304c may cost more than a PW5- but the all round performance is better. You get what you pay for at the end of the day. For the yanks, your 'bang per buck' in the states, ready to go. PW5- 33:1= $1060 per l/d point 304c- 42.7:1= $1311 per l/d point I know which I'd rather pay. Also, think of the resale value- which is going to hold its value better? give 10 years of use/depreciation and I bet they are even closer in L/D per $. If someone was on a budget and wanted PW5 performance, why not just go buy a K6? Lets just send all the PW5's to the states. Or a bonfire. At 18:54 11 March 2004, Eric Greenwell wrote: Ben Flewett wrote: Mark, So am I! That's my whole point! I would like to see the World Class concept take off but we need a better glider as the PW5 is too many steps backwards (over 40 years) for most pilots to accept. You talk about the Sparrowhawk or AC4 as candidates for the next World class glider. I haven't flown either of these (and never will). But why would you change the PW5 for some other piece of rubbish when history has shown that pilots will not accept such a regression in performance? In fact, why bother making the change at all - it's just a giant leap sideways. The LS4 or Discus 1 would be ideal in my opinion. A lot of the excitement over having the LS4 as the World Class glider seems to revolve around the idea it would cost about as much as a PW5 and have the build quality of the LS4. I think that is a hopelessly naive idea, based on these facts: $35,000 PW5, IN THE USA, with standard instruments, radio, and trailer $43,000 304C (standard class), IN EUROPE, no radio or trailer $13,000 trailer, shipping, radio ------- $56,000 in the USA Basically, the 304C is an LS4. Now, maybe there are pilots that think it's still the better value, even at $21,000 more, but it's not a cheap glider. If a goal of the World Class is low cost gliders, pilots will have to accept it must be a smaller, lighter glider that won't glisten like a polished mirror. Size, weight, and finish do matter when you are manufacturing something. I hope someone with glider manufacturing experience will tell us why I am right/wrong about this. -- ----- change 'netto' to 'net' to email me directly Eric Greenwell Washington State USA |
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