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I see nothing in this licensing statement that would
prevent what Paul is doing. The user isn't returning or reselling the product only proving that he purchased it. At 12:36 20 May 2004, Paul Remde wrote: Hi Andrej and everyone, Let me say for the record that SeeYou, like StrePla, is a great product and the SeeYou team supports it very well. I am trying to do a very good job selling and supporting StrePla. Like you, I want to have a friendly relationship with you both in public and private. We have a lot in common. However, I am very surprised by your response. I am being completely sincere when I say that I don't see anything illegal or even questionable about this marketing technique. My marketing approach in offering a 'Competitive Upgrade' is very common in the software industry. For example, for years you could upgrade to the latest version of Microsoft Excel by sending in the license key or box top from Lotus 123. The same was true for upgrades to the latest version of Corel Draw from competitive products. I'm not sure I follow you note below in regard to reselling or returning without permission of the authors. I'm not going to use their SeeYou license key or pass it on to anyone else. Therefore they are not reselling or returning it. I am an ethical person that can be trusted. I just want to verify that they are actually a SeeYou user and not simply saying they are a SeeYou user. I am frustrated by your statement that this marketing strategy is unethical. I am an extremely ethical person with great integrity. I am just trying to give customers a slightly less expensive way to get into a bundle of pocket*StrePla and StrePla. The upgrade does not apply to upgrades to StrePla only, just the bundle. In regard to the 'free marketing for SeeYou'. I have always tried to show customers all the options before they buy. That is clear in the hardware and software comparisons on my web site. I often mention to customers that there are 2 very good soaring flight planning and analysis programs available - StrePla and SeeYou. I sell StrePla and I like it very much. I imagine that some people will buy from me because they see something in StrePla they like, or they feel I will offer good support. I am sincerely very interested in feedback from others as to whether they think my 'Competitive Upgrade' marketing strategy is at all illegal or unethical. If people think I'm doing something very wrong I will gladly change my strategy so as to keep my reputation intact. But really don't think I'm doing anything bad. Really. Sincerely, Paul Remde Cumulus Soaring Supplies http://www.cumulus-soaring.com 'Andrej Kolar' wrote in message ... SeeYou users. Forwarding your SeeYou key to a third party is not allowed according to the license you have agreed upon when installing the SeeYou. A snip out of the license agreement: 'After you have received the registration key for the software it is not possible to return or resell it without permission of the authors of this software.' What Paul is asking you to do is illegal from where SeeYou and Strepla businesses come from. It is also very questionable in terms of commercial ethics, but I hope we don't have to go into that on a public newsgroup. Being an ever optimist, I am sure we (the parties involved) can talk as adults even though we are competitors on a free market. It's been that way so far. Enjoy using the software you like best. Andrej Kolar -- glider pilots use http://www.SeeYou.ws/ 'Paul Remde' wrote in message news:huLqc.34513$6f5.3442400@attbi_s54... Hi, I'm sorry about this being the 3rd commercial post I've done in the last day or so. I tend to do them in spurts... I promise to slow down after this one. Being a US dealer for StrePla and pocket*StrePla and a member of Team StrePla I have found that many customers are impressed with the features of the products, but they are already using SeeYou. Therefore I am now offering a 'competitive upgrade' option for SeeYou users. If you are currently using SeeYou and you are interested in using pocket*StrePla and StrePla, you can buy the StrePla-Bundle-Upgra de for $294. It includes the full version of both StrePla and pocket*StrePla. The price is $74 less than buying both StrePla and pocket*StrePla and is less than the price of WinPilot Pro. You will be asked to enter your SeeYou registration key when you place the order. StrePla offers some unique features like free US Sectional Aeronautical charts. pocket*StrePla offers full access to all the maps used in StrePla and some very nice in-flight task optimization features that are great for pilots doing OLC (Online Contest) flights or FAI free distance flights. Of course, you may download and try the software before you buy it. Thank you, Paul Remde Cumulus Soaring, Inc. http://www.cumulus-soaring.com |
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