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Robert Ehrlich wrote:
"Lars P. Hansen" wrote: OK, here we go: Could devices like this not also be used to detect thermals? The description in the link below about how the laser "sees" minute dust particles in the air seems to be well suited to thermals. I don't buy the explanation they give in the cited url (http://www.navysbir.brtrc.com/succes...navsea_p3.html) They pretend the device measures the speed and direction of dust particles from the shift in the frequency of reflected light, this is well known as Doppler effect and can only give the radial component (toward or away from the sensor) of the speed, not its value and direction. For thermals we are interested in the speed component which is nearly perpendicular to the measured component, so this would be of little interest. Of course whith several such devices on the ground, all the 3 compenents of airmass speed could be measured, maybe this in the intended use of the device as it is advertised, but in a glider you don't have sufficient vertical distance for putting 2 devices which could provide an accurate value for the vertical component of the speed. It does work, but they use a little different technique. The Doppler is only measured on particles at the focal length of the optics. The assumption is that the airmass (at least locally) is all the same, and that the Doppler measurement is taken far enough away so the effects of the airplane on the airmass are negligible. So you send out two beams -- say, one forward at 45 degrees, one aft at 45 degrees. It turns out that if you sum the signals from the two beams, you get the vertical component of velocity, and if you difference the two signals, you get the horizontal component. Since we're measuring frequency, we can get sum and difference frequencies from a mixer, though I have no doubt it runs through a DSP somewhere. So you only need one sensor head (though it puts out multiple beams). By sending out two more beams, to each side, you can also pick up sideslip information. The clever thing is that they're using components developed for the communications field, which helps to keep costs down. Tim Ward |
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