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![]() This thread reminds me of the original explanation for malaria "bad air". Everyone knew that he disease came from bad air wafting up from hot swamps. It took some actual research to determine that it came from a mosquito borne parasite. Clearly there are lots of arm-chair (desk-chair?) explanations for why IAS increases upon entering a thermal, but nobody *really* knows because no experimentation has been done to figure it out. Some wise old sages out there are certain of their explanation, and maybe they're right, or maybe it's just bad air. This seems like it would be a good youth-in-soaring sort of question to solve with real science. Shawn This ain't rocket science it is basic aerodynamics. Experimentation is worthless without a basic understanding of aerodynamic force. You will only propagate the narrow minded misinformation found in some real science books. Its takes life long conspiracy to get pilots (private and commercial) so ignorant about aerodynamic force that they do not know the simple single difference between the definition of lift and drag. You have to start when they are young and gullible and hope they do not practice much original thought or apply what you tell them with actual occurrence. When you introduce them to one of the many different inaccurate definitions like drag is a resistance force hope they do not realize that the major use of lift in aeronautics is to resist gravity. When you talk about the dynamics of a balloon preoccupy them with the aerostatic lift that it produces and do not mention the fact that it has circumnavigated the earth using drag exclusively for horizontal acceleration. When you tell them that lift is the aerodynamic force that supports the weight of an airplane in flight hope that they don't realize that if drag opposes motion and if that motion is downward drag is in an upward direction. Explain terminal velocity of a dropped object on another day maybe they won't put two and two together. Why if you were to try something novel like telling them the truth the hole truth and nothing but the truth so help you god maybe when they are thinking about an aerodynamic force that impedes the forward motion or an aircraft they will have an open mind and not just jump to the inaccurate conclusion that it is always drag. When they are thinking about an aerodynamic force that accelerates a glider upward they will not jump to the inaccurate conclusion that it is always lift especially since the glider is in lift. It is impossible for the air speed of a glider in normal flight to not be increased by a sudden thermal. The only way that the glider will not be affected is if it had no inertia. If the glider moved readily with the thermal there would be no increase in motion of the glider in relation with the upward airflow. If experimentation is needed to figure this out how are you going to be able to figure out the experiment? I hate to brag but I am a walking talking aerodynamic experiment. Why even in my sleep I possess the ingredients for aerodynamic force. I am a solid object that is influenced by a relative airflow 24-7 as a result of respiration among other things. Not to mention other fluid flows like blood and urine. And I have been known to emit a little swamp gas (what you refer to as "bad air"). To the people that I am related to this is referred to as relative wind. |
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