When to acknowledge ATC

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Ron Natalie wrote:

Nope, you had permission after the first exchange (where called you back
with your identifier)..

Has 2-way communication been established? If ATC does not
respond, you MAY NOT ENTER THEIR AIRSPACE.

Same happens with IFR traffic. If a Minneapolis Center tries to
hand off a flight to Denver Center, and Denver Center doesn't accept
the handoff, does the flight have permission to enter Denver's
Airspace? Absolutely not. The same applies here. If ATC does not
respond, you don't enter their space.

I did not have to read back the "permission" where as Class Bravo, I must
not only hear the magic words cleared into Bravo, I MUST read back that
clearance.

You're not required to readback in either case.

********. You must. But go on and believe what you believe.
I've posted references to documentation stating opposite your case, for
both ATC and pilots. If you want to go on flying like an idiot, I hope
I'm not controlling you (and as I'm more than likely getting the call
to start at NCT in Sacramento (well what do ya know, Class C!)), you'll
resent me, because if I ask you to remain outside of Class C for a
reason, I'm expecting that readback.

BL.
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