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			 "Greg Farris" wrote in message ... There is another reason to use 10° flaps - training. Many students are not learning to fly a 172, but using a 172 to learn to fly airplanes. If you are anticipating transitioning up ASAP (as in career oriented students) it's good to get into the habit, because your next airplane may require flaps on takeoff, and the one after that certainly will. I've noticed that airline pilots who also instruct in small airplanes tend to insist on flaps on takeoff, as a matter of good habit forming. Some also call positive rate and gear up as anticipated training. G faris Then again one could transition up to a real airplane which of course would have no flaps. Nor would the one after that or the one after that.  | 
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