"Somebody check your mike on the radio, please..."

"Jose" wrote in message
.. .
When entering a class-B, I call up approach at the appropriate time. I
will not be talking to ATC prior to that transmission.

An appropriate time is outside of class B, when approaching to enter. This
is the time we are discussing.

Better ratchet up that "wrong" counter one more.

George's comment was clearly with respect to the state in which the pilot is
*before* attempting to contact ATC. I think it's entirely plausible that
most VFR traffic would not already be in contact with ATC, prior to the
point in time at which they decide they need to contact ATC for the purpose
of entering the Class B airspace.

IFR traffic will be (but doesn't care about the boundaries of Class B
airspace anyway), and VFR traffic already in contact with ATC (because they
are using VFR radar advisories, for example) will, by definition, already be
in contact with ATC. But plenty of VFR traffic won't be, not until that
first call to ATC to ask to enter the Class B.

Pete