Blue Angels Question(s)

I've seen that movie, a good one. Also a movie, Hunters
with F86.

Bridges at Toko Ri is good too.


"Dudley Henriques" wrote in
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| Sounds like Bob Pardo's little "adventure" in Viet Nam. He
lives out in
| Colorado today.
| Bob literally "pushed" Earl Aman's damaged F4 most of the
way home with his
| own F4's windshield by getting Earl to lower the tailhook
and snagging it on
| the base of his own windshield.
| Truly a magnificent feat.
| I think Aman still lives out near San Antonio last I
heard.
| Don't know about Korea. There was a story that came out of
Korea involving
| two pilots flying F9F's when one talked the other back to
the carrier.
| Mitchner did a story on it. "Men of the Fighting Lady"
with Van Johnson and
| Dewy Martin as the two pilots involved.
| Dudley
|
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
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| I read somewhere that during the Korean war, a wounded
| plane/ pilot was kept on course to a water bail-out by
| bumping the wing to keep the wings level. Any truth to
| that?
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| "Dudley Henriques" wrote in
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| | Yes, they do "bump" once in a while in the formation.
| There have been
| | numerous sheet metal "benders" through the years.
| Naturally, these are
| | wingtip hits laterally rather than nose hits :-) I
| remember one of these
| | occasions quite vividly during the 73 season.
| | The flow patterns in the diamond are unique to close
| proximity similar
| | aircraft. I say similar because in a close Diamond of
| dis-similar aircraft,
| | the flow patterns would not be as predictable.
| | Tip vortices on the left and right wing positions in
close
| tend to cause a
| | roll away from the opposite aircraft and have to be
| countered. You can
| | really feel this as you get in close.
| | Lead and the slot position have their trim affected as
the
| slot sticks his
| | nose in where it should be. Lead can actually "feel"
the
| slot in position
| | and knows by his trim change if the slot slides out
too
| far. The trim change
| | is nose down for the lead and nose up for the slot,
again
| caused by the flow
| | patterns.
| | It's not nearly as smooth in the Diamond as it looks
to
| you from the ground.
| | There is a lot of movement going on in the formation,
| especially through
| | rough air. It takes intense concentration to hold
| position.
| | On the cross over question. They use pre-selected hack
and
| checkpoints
| | briefed by photo recon before the show as well as
radio
| calls when visual.
| | Timing on the high show bomb burst is a hack call down
| from lead to the
| | split S pull on his cadence. There is a visual call by
| each opposing
| | aircraft (lead/slot) (left/right wings) and
adjustments
| made during the
| | downside recovery for altitude and airspeed to seek
| co-cross at show center.
| | Naturally, both sides of the runway are used. It saves
a
| hell of a lot of
| | sheet metal work after the show :-)
| | Hope this helps a bit.
| | Dudley Henriques
| |
| |
| |
| | "three-eight-hotel" wrote
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| | Our family went to the airshow in northern
California
| last weekend. It
| | was a blast, to say the least. It blows me away to
| think about the
| | things people can do with planes and that they can
have
| the
| | where-with-all to pull off some of the manuvers they
do,
| and under the
| | G's they are pulling at times!
| |
| | The Blue Angels were incredible, as were the rest of
the
| performers,
| | but I left the show, as I'm sure others did,
scratching
| my head
| | wondering how they do some of the things they do
without
| tragic
| | results.
| |
| | I heard that in some of the tight formation flying,
they
| get as close
| | as 18 inches to each other. If this is true, and I
have
| no reason to
| | believe it isn't, I have to wonder if they ever bump
| into one another?
| | If they were to bump into one another, would that be
| catastrophic, or
| | would they merely make contact and separate back
into
| position? They
| | are all flying in the same direction, and at the
same
| speed, so it's
| | conceivable that contact could be farily incidental.
| |
| | Another question I had was regarding two Angels
flying
| in opposite
| | directions and crossing by each other at a combined
| speed of 800 mph.
| | Do they have equipment on board that gives them
precise
| situational
| | awareness, or do they use ground references? My
thought
| was that one
| | of them could be lined up to fly right down the
runway
| center-line, and
| | the other could line up just outside the runway
which
| should guarantee
| | separation??? Their timing, so that they cross
right at
| midfield is
| | amazing!
| |
| | They put on an incredible show, and I'm glad my kids
got
| a chance to
| | see them. I hadn't seen them in about 20 years, so
I
| forgot how much
| | fun they were to watch.
| |
| | Best Regards,
| | Todd
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