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nestofdragons wrote:
I do not want to spool the fun here, but ... whichs formulas did you use to get those figures? They were from he http://www.ornithopter.org/forum/sho...98&postcount=3 . Even though the question asked on that page was regarding flapped flight the answer was given in general terms of energy needed. It ignored the 80% engine efficiency and the propeller efficiency which I thought was also 80%. I used some basic formulas and totally get other figures. OK, I assume a bad efficienty of the prop and took it for safety at 50%. I get for 10,5 glide ratio, 1300 N total weight, 16 m2 surface, climb rate of 2m/s --- needed power of about 10 kW! Those are the approximate figures that were used for the calculations. I should have doubled (approximately) the final result to allow for engine & propeller. So I would guesstimate 3 kW for level flight. For climbing at 2 m/s I think the power needed would need to be doubled again to 6 or 7 kW. So perhaps a more accurate cost calculation would be: 7000 W needed = 45 kg of batteries at 150 kWh per kg = 0.75 kg for each 1 minute of flight = $250 for each minute of flight, at about a kilo per minute $2500 for ten minutes seems a bit steep so I can understand why manufacturers might not be making these yet. The gasoline engines for hang gliders (including harness) are around $5000 total. A harness by iteself is $500 - $1000. An Electric engine + prop is around $500 - $1000. |
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