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![]() Grumman-581 wrote: On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:40:11 GMT, Larry Dighera wrote: How does the energy density of LNG compare to ethanol? It's less than gasoline, but I'm not sure how it compares to ethanol... Do you mean LNG or LPG though? Propane has an octane rating of 110 to 120... Sounds great, right? Unfortunately, the weight of the tanks is what would probably get us... Our tanks would have to be built quite a bit sturdier to handle the increased pressure... Although typical operating pressures are around 130 psi, tanks are typically rated to over 300 psi... With LNG, you need either higher pressure or a cooling system... LNG, as used in the Beech system (Beech Aircraft really did the pioneering work on LNG, of course it went nowhere....) was stored at very low temperature at approximately atmospheric pressure in a dewar type insulated tank. It's important to understand that methane-natural gas- is an incondensible gas for all intents and purposes, like oxygen and nitrogen but unlike propane, nitrous oxide, carbon dioxide, ammonia which can be stored at human-habitable ambient temperatures at pressures feasible for storage tanks. Methane and propane can be burned in an IC engine in similar fashion once they are a gas, but at very different fuel-air mixtures. Methane is approximately 108 octane and propane is in the 103-106 range depending on exactly what's in it (LP motor fuel is nothing like reagent grade and contains methane, butane, methanol, and lots of other junk). LNG would be practical but the cost of distribution would be high and the fuel system is fairly complex, at least in the Beech system. CNG has no range to speak of. LPG is very practical for all sort of ground vehicles and has been done successfully in helicopters, but large volume storage in fixed wing aircraft is problematic. A fixed wing aircraft designed around a fuselage LP tank as a stressed member might make some sense. |
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