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"BTIZ" wrote:
know where you are know where the ground is and if lights in the distance start blinking or disappearing there is either a cloud between you and the light or solid ground This is a crucial point. I am always amazed when I fly licensed pilots at night and they don't understand BTIZ's point. At HPN, 29 has a displaced threshold due to trees just beyond the airport boundary, and no VASI. If you're on final, the trees are invisible, but the threshold lighting is bright and clear. If the threshold lights suddenly disappear, that means you've fallen below a flight path that keeps you clear of the trees. When this happens, I'll say something like, "You're too low". If that doesn't get a reaction pretty fast, the next hint is a much more emphatic, "You need to climb NOW", quickly followed by my taking the controls. Some people just don't seem to get it. In a situation like this, the first glimpse you'll get of the trees is when branches start coming through the windshield. BTW, if the lights straight below you start blinking, that's because you're looking straight down through a thin layer of ground fog. You take off a little before sunset on a clear evening with a small temp/dewpoint spread. The sun goes down, radiation cooling drops the surface temp 5 or 10 degrees, and suddenly there's fog. Maybe not in Pheonix, but it happens a lot around here. This is bad news. A 100 foot thick layer of fog makes the lights twinkle when you're looking straight down through it. On final, when you're looking through it at an oblique angle, it's zero-zero landing conditions. |
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