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Wayne,
I couldn't agree more. I'm a member of the SSA-OLC committee, but Doug has done 99% of the hard work this year. He has been amazing at helping pilots get there flight logs submitted successfully when there were issues. He has seen all the issues and knows how to work around them. He has forwarded the issues to the OLC team for future fixes. I've been copied on hundreds of e-mails in which he helped someone enjoy the OLC. Well done Doug!!!!! Paul Remde "Wayne Paul" wrote in message ... Doug, Thank you for all the work you are doing for the SSA-OLC and the SSA website. Please don't let the critics get you down. There are by far more of us who appreciate your work then there are critics!!! Again, thank you. Wayne HP-14 "6F" http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/N990_Near_Arco.jpg "Doug Haluza" wrote in message ups.com... Andy, the USNO is the definitive authority on sunset time--there is no arbitrary SSA definition of sunset. USNO makes online calculators available that compute sunrise and sunset for any place, for a single day, or a table for an entire year. So the data is easily accessible. Now as far as what to do, the SSA policy is uniform for OLC, B&R and contests--the flights are to be "disqualified". For contests, that means zero points for the day, plus a possible penalty. For B&R it means the claim is denied. For OLC, to be consistent with the international practices, we request that the pilot remove the claim. If you think this is too severe, you need to make that request to the SSA Board. But I don't think they will accept that an "insignificant" penalty is consistent with the SSA policy that FAR's must be observed. Andy wrote: Doug Haluza wrote: So yes, we are talking about violations that are obvious in the IGC log files, because that is the evidence we have. We don't have usable evidence of cloud bases, so that point is moot. Doug, I don't have any problem at all with rejecting flight logs that have evidence of gross FAR violation. All I have lobbied for is a more reasonable interpretation of the sunset rule. I have stated that many, if not most, if not all, pilots break some FARs and I get tired of the preaching from those that seem to claim they never had a flight that ever broke one FAR. End soaring flight at sunset and reject logs with gross violations of the sunset rule and I'll say no more. Let the FAA decide if they want to take enforcement action against a pilot that lands a few minutes after sunset. If you do that I don't care how you define sunset. The consequence of landing a minute after SSA sunset time will be an insignificant number of points. Andy |
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