Rolling a Non Aerobat 150

Spins have NEVER been in the private pilot PTS. The PTS (Practical Test
Standard) only has been in existence for around 20 years or so. The last
time spins were required for a Private Certificate was back in the early
1950's or maybe the late 1940's. Note that there is nothing that prevents
an instructor from teaching spins to a student pilot. However you would
have to wear parachutes to be legal since the regs only allow spins without
the wearing of parachutes for people training for a flight instructor
certificate.

The predecessor for the PTS was the Flight Test Guides. These were slim
volumes of not more than 20 pages and about 2 or 3 inches wide and about 4
inches high. In any case they were smaller than a 3 by 5 index card. they
had very broad descriptions of maneuvers' and gave examiners and inspectors
wide latitude in what and how they wanted you to perform various maneuvers.
Part 61 was actually a much better regulation then in that it clearly made
the CFI responsible for preparing a competent pilot that was able to show
good judgment.

The predecessor regs and guidance was to list the actual maneuvers in the
reg. If you could get a monkey to somehow do the maneuver a certificate
would be issued.

Tom Inglima

"Chris G." nospam@noemail wrote in message
eenews.net...
Besides, spin training is NOT required for a private pilot certificate.
Spin AWARENESS (aka recognizing you're going to get into a spin) is
required. Spins are not part of the PTS anymore though.

I don't necessarily think that omitting spins from the PTS is the best
move the FAA has made, but I don't know the whole story. I know I'm
having my instructor make sure he teaches me spins in the 150 I'm learning
in. I believe that training in spins and spin recovery is a very
important skills that could save my life one day.

Chris


wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:46:42 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote:


wrote in message
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On 27 Apr 2005 09:43:30 -0700, "Noah Fiedel"
wrote:


In addition, were you & your instructor wearing parachutes
as required for aerobatic flight?


Not required, since spin training is required for a rating.

Looked to me like a roll not a spin.


Oooops.

Never mind.