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At 08:00 19 June 2007, Dan G wrote: 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		 
		
	
	
	Quite apart from that though Bill is absolutely right. The older German manufacturers are being left behind by other companies across the board. It's not suprising nor unusual that people try and rubbish threats to their favourite brands. Dan Eh?? It is great to see excellent new designs and manufacturers such as the Diana, Antares, HpH Shark and Jonkers but to say that 'the older German manufacturers are being left behind by other companies across the board' is a bit OTT. Open Class: Who is beating the ASW22 and Nimbus 4? !8m class: The ASG 29 is being left behind? Standard Class: Anything better than the Discus 2A? 15m Class: The Diana-2 is a fascinating project and elements of it may have a big effect on the future of glider construction. The light weight allows a very high aspect ratio and high performance. However (if you want to buy into a fading class) is it yet a safe place to put your own money rather than in an ASW 27/Ventus 2? John Galloway  | 
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