Landing without flaps

"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in
:

Hi all, studied the posts to this thread.

On Mar 8, 8:40 am, Dudley Henriques wrote:
Ken S. Tucker wrote:
On Mar 7, 5:01 pm, wrote:
On Mar 7, 1:02 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:

Dud, you've never been in an airplane, and you're
NOT an instructor. I'm a prof teacher and I can
sniff your bad **** off the net, you're a phony!
If Dudley or Bertie are frauds, they are very, very good
frauds.
The terminology and all other aspects of their posts regarding
aviation and learning to fly are accurate and perceptive. There
would be few folks who could come up with this stuff unless they
were savants of some sort. Those of us who actually fly have
little argument with most of what they say.
There are some other posters here who were obvious frauds
from
the start. And the more they post, the deeper they dig their holes
of discredit. They're just incredible.

Anybody can sound good on the net where knowledge
is concerned, but you can't fake an attitude for long.

Pulling mixture or fooling with fuel valves immediately after
takeoff is asking to die. Soon.

No not really, Mr. Buttman is not a suicidal maniac
and one has to presume if the pilot didn't react
properly he take control and have that figured out.

Pulling the throttle has the same
engine-loss effect without the extreme risk associated with
killing the engine. Pulling mixture or fuel also carries
the more remote risk of a control failure, whereby the mixture
control cable or fuel valve linkage breaks at that exact moment,
making a recovery of the engine impossible.

Sure that can happen. I suppose that's part of the
point of Mr. Buttman's suggested exercise.

In the last 15 years or so we've
had a throttle cable failure and a carb heat cable failure, so now
we replace all the controls when we replace the engine. There's no
legal requirement to do it, but after seeing old controls break I
decided that it was going to get done.
Dan

My personal fear is loosing elevator control, it's
very rare, but that Alaska Air crash a few years
back (in the Pacific) was blamed on the screw
that adjusts the elevator getting stripped or jammed.
Ken

The answer to this entire issue is quite easily proved one way or the
other. Anyone.....and I mean ANYONE, reading about this issue here
can easily pick up the phone and call their local FAA office here in
the United States anyway, and ask for an official opinion on the
following question. (Someone please do this :-)
"Is it acceptable procedure for a flight instructor to turn off a
fuel valve on a student on takeoff causing fuel starvation and
subsequent engine failure as a teaching method"

No flames......no back and forth on who's an idiot or who's a fraud;
no banter on who's a good instructor and who isn't.....simply get the
official position of the authoritative body officially responsible
for flight instruction and flight safety in the United
States.......then post the answer right here for the world to see.
How fair and up front is that?
Dudley Henriques

Dud if you're asking me, the govmonks create minimum
standards, that I would expect instructors to exceed.
How they do that is a matter of experience.


No, there is a professional consencus and there is common sense and that
instructor waved sayonora to both.


P.S. you're a moron


Bertie