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On Mar 10, 4:17 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
What, you;re not worried abou tthe people from new jersey, displaced and hungry, ravaging the countryside in search of food and shelter? This isn;'t about disappearing beaches.. Bertie People from NJ are easy -- they can't shoot for $%it. But, as an aside, let's consider what the what the IPCC says about Climate Change: Global average sea level in the last interglacial period (about 125,000 years ago) was likely 4 to 6 m higher than during the 20th century, mainly due to the retreat of polar ice. Ice core data indicate that average polar temperatures at that time were 3°C to 5°C higher than present, because of differences in the Earth's orbit. The Greenland Ice Sheet and other arctic ice fields likely contributed no more than 4 m of the observed sea level rise. There may also have been a contribution from Antarctica. {6.4} And again: Temperature Change Sea Level Rise (°C at 2090-2099 relative to 1980-1999)a (m at 2090-2099 relative to 1980-1999) Best Likely Model-based range excluding future Case estimate range rapid dynamical changes in ice flow Constant Year 2000 concentrationsb 0.6 0.3 - 0.9 NA B1 scenario 1.8 1.1 - 2.9 0.18 - 0.38 A1T scenario 2.4 1.4 - 3.8 0.20 - 0.45 B2 scenario 2.4 1.4 - 3.8 0.20 - 0.43 A1B scenario 2.8 1.7 - 4.4 0.21 - 0.48 A2 scenario 3.4 2.0 - 5.4 0.23 - 0.51 A1FI scenario 4.0 2.4 - 6.4 0.26 - 0.59 And again: Models used to date do not include uncertainties in climate-carbon cycle feedback nor do they include the full effects of changes in ice sheet fl ow, because a basis in published literature is lacking. The projections include a contribution due to increased ice fl ow from Greenland and Antarctica at the rates observed for 1993 to 2003, but these fl ow rates could increase or decrease in the future. For example, if this contribution were to grow linearly with global average temperature change, the upper ranges of sea level rise for SRES scenarios shown in Table SPM.3 would increase by 0.1 to 0.2 m. Larger values cannot be excluded, but understanding of these effects is too limited to assess their likelihood or provide a best estimate or an upper bound for sea level rise. {10.6} If radiative forcing were to be stabilised in 2100 at A1B levels14, thermal expansion alone would lead to 0.3 to 0.8 m of sea level rise by 2300 (relative to 1980-1999). Thermal expansion would continue for many centuries, due to the time required to transport heat into the deep ocean. The ONLY way to get a "20' rise in 100 (or 200) years" is to accept a full melting of the Greenland Ice Sheet, which the IPCC says "If a negative surface mass balance were sustained for millennia, that would lead to virtually complete elimination of the Greenland Ice Sheet and a resulting contribution to sea level rise of about 7 m." See again the word "Millenia" Dan |
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