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On Mar 11, 5:55 pm, "Dan Luke" wrote:
"Dan" wrote: And getting back to the original point -- there is a long, long stretch between observing and even accepting data that suggests some human induced forcing of atmospheric phenomenon and concluding therefore that disaster is upon us. Thus the wider the bands of uncertainty grow the farther out the models go. But here's what we know: CO2 is the primary persistent greenhouse gas. CO2 makes the planet warmer. If it didn't, the place would be frozen. There's 35% more of it now than at any time in the last 800 thousand years or more. Humans put that extra 35% in the atmosphere in the last 200 years. That is a geological instant. A lot of the effects, especially methane feedbacks, may not even have begun yet. Meanwhile, we are adding more GHGs all the time. Party on dudes! A warmer climate will shrivel glaciers, melt sea ice, magnify drought and flood events, raise sea levels, alter habitats and move agricultural zones. How much? Nobody knows for sure, but we have a pretty good idea what the planet was like the last time it was 3C or 6C hotter than it is now. How lucky do we feel? Lucky enough to just muddle ahead and wait to see what happens? I don't think we should. The only home we've got is getting run down and used up. We need to think about taking better care of it. The jury's out on the cause-effect relationship. We see a correlation -- that does not necessarily imply causation, and the IPCC waffles on this point as well. So the first Big Question is -- is CO2 increase anthropogenic? The resounding IPCC answer -- maybe. Nevertheless, for argument's sake, IF we accept the hypothesis that the earth is warming at a steady rate that will result in measurable change to global and regional climates, there is no model that adequately predicts the impact of these changes, long or short term. They may in fact be benign or even salutary. Thee time span for all these cataclysmic results is also in great doubt -- 100 - 400 - 1,00 years? Hardly a hurdle for humans, given our remarkable ability to adapt. As an aside: It's amazing how much more coherent and convincing your arguments appear when you're not sniping. I'm not signing up for the cause, just making an observation. Dan |
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