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![]() wrote in message ... On 30 Mar, 03:30, Frank wrote: Bill, I like the 'neutral-force' idea, and I think I have actually felt that a little bit on my Ventus. I'll keep looking at that. As for building a drag meter, I looked through the articles you referenced and beat a quick retreat. I would be much more likely to do serious damage to my glider (and/or me) than I would be to do anything positive! ;-) Frank The neutral-force force idea has been around for decades but there is no particular reason to think that it gives the best glide angle for the aircraft as a whole for a given speed - not least because it takes no account of the fuselage drag . The trailing edge drag probe is useful for research but completely useless as a real time flap guide during sporting flight - there are just too many variables and too much noise in the reading. Furthermore, once again, there is no reason to think that the flap setting that gives the lowest drag probe reading for that one station on the wing span is going to be the flap setting that maximises glide performance for the aircraft as a whole. If anyone believes otherwise they are welcome to make me an offer for my old Replogle drag probe and meter but they will be wasting their money:-) All the optimum settings change with wingloading (as well as air density, bugs etc). So, I would change the question round and ask "what is the best speed for each flap setting"? For each flap setting/wing-loading combination there will be an optimum airspeed when the fuselage is a its minimum drag angle of attack. Find information on the minimum drag angle of attack for the fuselage, set up the glider C of G to mimimize elevator drag, choose the ballast load depending on conditions and/or contest tactics, choose the cruise flap setting depending on the degree of pilot optimism and let the glider run at whatever speed corresponds to the fuselage angle of attack for lowest drag - using your handy fuselage angle of attack meter or wool canopy tufts. This will still be an approximation to the ideal but at least it is simple to use. In this way you end a choice of 2 or 3 three of inter-thermal cruise speeds - just like Ingo Renner advised all those years ago. Iain If the Idaflieg has the data for your ship---you can, for a small handling fee, get that data. They have carefully measured polars for each flap setting, faired together. Adjust for your flying mass, and viola, the best flap settings for you. Hartley Falbaum USA "KF" |
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