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On Sep 22, 2:00*am, Derek Copeland wrote:
Can I agree with Andy. In the UK we often seem to get really strong thermals close to a large lake or reservoir such as Grafham Water. The thermals are coming off the surrounding land of course, but the temperature contrast between the hotter ground and the cooler water seems to act as a trigger mechanism or a mini front. I have often found that discontinuities such as the edge of a forest, a ridge line (especially if pointing into sun), or a ploughed field next to one with crop often seem to give thermals. Provincial towns and active power stations are also good ground sources. However the most reliable thermal markers are circling birds of prey such as buzzards or kites, or insect eaters such as swallows and swifts. Derek Copeland * At 22:28 21 September 2009, Andy wrote: On Sep 21, 1:52=A0pm, danlj *wrote: I hope this turns into a thread on "How I keep going" - there must be scores of pilots more excellent than I who can say more than me. I well remember that years ago when a visiting German pilot asked for advice on finding thermals in Arizona I told him to look above and downwind of cattle tanks. *These are known as stock ponds in other places. *His reaction, that I must be a complete idiot for suggesting that pools of water could trigger thermals, has made me cautious about offering that advice to anyone. *I hoped he landed out but I don't think he did. Andy Andy's observation is a secret well-known to cross-country pilots in Arizona. Sometimes the most ridiculously small and almost dry water holes will be the source of strong thermals. My theory is that water holes inject enough moisture into the hot dry air to significantly increase its buoyancy. We also have small hills consisting of black volcanic rock that are also good sources. Dry river beds (called washes in the southwest US) also can be useful sources. Another issue with clouds here is that on fairly dry days the top of the lift is often a thousand feet or more below cloud base. However, a strong thermal will often continue for a short time above the top of lift fueled by the extra heat released by condensation and eventually form a cumulus. Once this short thermal pulse has decayed, the area immediately below the cloud then has no lift, although the original thermal may still be found a few thousand feet below. I call these clouds "cumulus decoyus" - decoy cumulus! Mike |
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