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On Sep 14, 8:50*am, Mike the Strike wrote:
On Sep 14, 7:52*am, Darryl Ramm wrote: I tried to follow your links, but there was nothing there. http://www.GliderPilot.org/FLARM Sigh. (again) Darryl From a recent discussion at our ASA racing group, I think you are now preaching to the choir on the benefits of FLARM. The problem we have is that pilots in the USA are not going to have the availability of an inexpensive unit, such as those used in Europe, Australia and Africa. *PowerFLARM appears to be a wonderful unit with many more benefits and I can see one in my future, but the cost is three to four times that of the regular unit and will have a much harder time reaching the same levels of adoption as in other countries. *I predict that there will be a lot of push-back if the rules committee attempts to mandate the use of a $2,000 unit in contests. Mike (It wasn't me "preaching", I assume Mike meant the OP but I'll reply anyhow). Where does "three to four times" come from? The advertised price of a Flarm Classic unit in the UK looks like £495 (US$770) or £587 (US$913) with IGC recorder. Neither price including VAT. (see http://www.lxavionics.co.uk/flarm.htm) In Australia the advertised price of a miniOzFLarm black box is AU$769 plus likely a display like the Artronic for AU$239. That is a total of AU$1008 (US$951). We could argue about the possibility of using this with a PDA only display, but I think you really want the hardwired display/controller in addition to a PDA. (see http://www.swiftavionics.com.au) In Germany the advertised price of a Flarm Classic unit (with IGC recorder) is EUR685 (US$891). See http://shop.segelflugbedarf24.de/ind...and-ADS-B.html. The introductory price for PowerFLARM in the USA was US$1495 (with PCAS, 1090ES and IGC up to three diamonds). The USA list price mentioned was $1695. I hear that the initial allocation at the introductory price has sold out.... (maybe time to start asking for an extension or bulk buy program etc.) Am I missing something? I'm not disputing the new generation PowerFLARM is more expensive than older Flarm units available overseas, but I just want people to be careful making pricing comparisons (and be clear what features like IGC recorders are in different products - yes not everybody may want that feature, but lets just be clear on any comparisons). BTW I've seen some people confuse the pricing on a Flarm display to that of a full Flarm unit, so again a good idea to be clear exactly what is in any price comparison. Darryl |
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