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On Oct 18, 2:08*pm, mattm wrote:
On Oct 18, 2:03*pm, mattm wrote: On Oct 18, 1:03*pm, Bruno wrote: Hey everyone. We had a fun weekend up in Utah with many gliders up in the air enjoying the amazing fall colors and mountain scenery. *At the end of Friday's flight I decided to extend the flight and go play out in the weak wave lift in the valley northeast of the Logan airport. It was fun until it stopped being fun... ![]() For those of you who have not yet enjoyed an off-field landing, this video shows the final 6 minutes before the landout and then landing in the farmer's alfalfa field. It does a good job of showing the desire to try to stretch and make it home but in the end making the correct decision and landing safely short of the airport in a good field. Please note the field was chosen and looked over well before the gear came down. Other than a few green leaves that needed to be washed away from the bottom of the glider it was no worse for wear and I am thrilled to have the video to share with others of what the experience of landing in a field is like. Please watch the video in the highest resolution your computer and connection can handle. *It was shot in 1080HD and at that resolution you should be able to read all the numbers on the instruments. *The camera is a Canon HF20 with a fish eye lens which does a great job of distorting my face... ![]() adjustable arms. *I have a custom voltage reducer to take a full 12 volt 7 amp/hr battery and lower it to 8.4 volts so I get 7+ hours of battery life. The standard camera batteries only last a few hours max so this is necessary. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBfNA5nhGQM&hd=1 Here is the igc file - it wasn't an impressive flight but you can see the trace at the end where the video shows the final moments.http://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-2.0....html?flightId... Thanks for watching and hope you enjoy. Bruno Vassel IV - B4http://www.youtube.com/user/bviv Excellent video. *Wish I had this available last month when I was giving a land out talk. *There's a few things that you should learn from the experience, though (shouldn't there always be?), as suggested by the likes of Tim Welles and Kai Gertsen: 1. turn off the radio when you're low -- it's just a distraction. Also, as Doug Jacobs likes to say, if you can do anything else while thermalling, you're not thinking about thermalling hard enough. *You can turn it back on after you land and tell everyone you're all right. 2. pick the field while you still have room to change your mind, and when you can see it properly. *You picked a field ahead of yourself a ways, and lucked out that it was a good field (it was into the sun, too, so it had to be hard to see it well). *I tried that last year and landed in chest-high barley (ouch). 3. pick the field at a more reasonable altitude. *300 feet (100m for the rest of the world) is more like the altitude you should be turning base to final. It's a little hard to see, but it seems you had good fields under you at 800 feet, and you had a good chance to look at them while you were scratching (which is a good exception to DJ's rule). There's a bunch of good presentations on off field landings (and lots of other great soaring stuff) at Doug Jacob's collection of stuff for the US Team camps:http://www.dragonnorth.com/djpresentations/index.html -- Matt Also, I don't want to sound negative in all this. *You did do stuff right, too -- checklist, take the safe option to go into the field (rather than stretching too far), and local field knowledge. *As you said on the radio, you were very close to glide slope, but you broke off while you still had time to maneuver. There's too many NTSB reports of pilots just hoping for that last 80 feet to materialize... -- Matt- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Fun video of pleasant ending to a flight that almost made it- sorta. Bruno really was 500 to 600 low to make the field if one allows a decent safety margin. I get the impression that he might have gone for it if he was a couple hundred feet higher. The sink he sees when leaving his last "thermal" shows why this can be folly. The concern I have is giving the impression that this last few minutes is how we should fly such that others use this as an example. Everything is in his favor. Benign terrain, not much wind, not a lot of sink(or lift). I would bet a tighter circle with a bit more flap would have improved his escape possibilities. Looked like he was bouncing off bubbles without trying to tighten up in best lift. That said, without feeling the seat, he could have been doing it quite well. All that said, deciding to quit at 3 or 400 ft when it hasn't worked all the way down, is from my experience, a poor thing to do for a couple reasons. First surprises happen and options become very limited. Second, the positive outcome makes the pilot comfortable with doing it, leading to lower and lower quitting points. I've pointed this out to a number of my competition friends over the years. 2 proved me right within a year by crashing with low decision to land being a significant factor. BTW- another observation- How many times does he scan outside the circle? I know camera angle is deceiving. Enough preaching. Nice video Fun to watch Don't use as a training film. UH |
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